Decision 2008: The Presidential Election Thread

im a sexist pig and don’t want a woman to be president i also don’t want a black guy for some reason, even though im black myself. I just like old white males to run the country… i’ve never voted and i am democrat but this year i’ll vote republican just cuz i don’t want either of the leading democrats to win.:devil:

Bush is a fiscally irresponsible fascist. Hillary is a fiscally irresponsible fascist. Change? People crack me up sometimes.

and Obama lacks experience.

So the Republicans take it again?

Mike Bloomberg for president. Act like you know.

I’am still trying to figure out what test you take to get presidential experience besides being the president.

If ya’ll really want some change don’t vote and watch how strange things start happening…

if the republicans take it again…
i’d probably commit that. well, i wouldn’t go that far, but FUCK. if america gives it to the republicans again then there really is no hope. i definitely would get off my ass and start “writing again” (graffiti/wheatpasting)…

and why is nobody (running) talking about the value of the dollar? am i the only person that imports a lot of things?

Experience is overrated. Abraham Lincoln had a single term in the senate prior to becoming president.

have all our presidents had lots of experience?

Shit. This is the U S of A. Unless you’re a retarded blond named Paris Hilton you’re probably broke.

I don’t even have a dollar so I could bitch about how little it’s worth.

Back to a barter economy.

For trade: sister
ISO: food

fuck experience.

really though, how far has experience gotten us? how many americans take the time out to even research said experience for a candidate?

change is what we need. period. definitely not feeling more of the same, which is exactly what you’d get with any of the reps running except ron paul but he’s not going to win the nominee ANYWAY. still don’t understand why ppl are talking about if he wins, and i’m voting for him, etc.

the nigga is not winning. period. dog, look at your party. everyone is trying to be Reagan 2.0. this is the same party that is all about shoot first ask questions later, fuck the lil ppl, fuck these minorities, fuck anyone with an accent that isn’t “american,” we’re all about big business, blonde bitches with big tits, big money, big guns, and what we say is the only thing we’ll listen to.

do you REAAAAAAAALLY think ron has a chance in his own party? really, though…?? for real for real?

NEGRO PLEASE.

/end rant. and remind yourself that the crack epidemic, niggas walking around with uzi’s and ak’s in the hood, ppl getting robbed left and right, etc. happened under reagan. shit was NOT all gravy and why anyone would want to return to those days is beyond me.

true. the ecomony is supposed to have been great and all these new jobs.

i’m like where? where are they at? how much are they paying? how long will they last? are they hiring EVERYBODY regardless of race or class?

the economy is shit, the job market is ass, the amount of pay these jobs out here are offering is ass, they’re outsourcing a lot of jobs over to foreign countries, the dollar is ass, etc. can’t even import from europe anymore without getting raped with no vaseline.

He is right on the Reagan 2.0 thing. If I hear one here “like Reagan did or woulda done” I’am going to throw up.

Sometimes I think the candidates on the right only know one three politicans. Themselves, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. And they only know Clinton cause they mad he got on in the White House, lied about it… and got away with it. Sorry but we dems just do it better lol

Ron Paul isn’t for isolationism because he wants to continue with free trade with all countries. Its invading other countries, interfering in their elections, and exporting mass amounts of weapons which is the actual policy of the insane. The rest of the republicans have no problems continuing this failure of a policy, and the frontrunning democrats only talk about the subject of possibly leaving Iraq but would basically continue the same policy with everything else, such as in regards to Iran and expanding the US military.

i know what youre saying and i know what ron is saying and i agree. i just get this feeling from ron that he wouldnt have the patience to work with these other countries and we would end up isolated…

I think the rest of the world hates us and is going to continue to hate us and doesn’t seem to care that we pretty much saved them from being dominated by Soviet hegemony, even if our methods were pretty ruthless at times we were a 1,000 times better than the USSR. So I say fuck the rest of the world, we’ll trade with you guys but militarily, unless you’re our close allies, don’t expect a handout, or federal aid, or any of that shit. We’re going through a recession and we need to handle our own business.

Policing Iraq, the middle east? Please, there are places in American it’s more dangerous to walk down than streets in Baghdad. That is simply unacceptable.

So a terrorist is a scary person?

You forgot Pee Wee Herman and the Candyman.

Terrorist is a weasel word. A misnomer. It has no set definition so people can use it to incite moral outrage on any undesirable person. Moral outrage is kryptonite to common sense. Anyone throwing that word out constantly in a political argument (on TV or on a website) fails hard.

In fact, terrorism only works if people talk about it after the deed is done, so why dont people just go about their business like normal. The fact that the US citizens flipped the fuck out after 9/11 gave the current president a blank check on power. A blank check that EVERY politician wants to use except Ron Paul, which is why people like Clinton and Obama support the Patriot act even though they want “change.”

“change” my ass. They are just another politician taking money from groups who dont have my best interests at heart.

Face it, the American political system is broken. Really broken. I dont agree with his way of going about things, but what he does he does with no financial stake involved. It seems to me a matter of principle and what he says he has been saying for years. His opinion doesnt change according to straw poles. He probably is a racist. Find a 60 year old white man from Texas who isnt. I think he is and I would vote for him anyway.

I would say Ron has about 3% of the peoples support, that is more than I have ever seen for a canidate who is practically independent, so if I had a say in the Republican pick he would get my support.

As far as Iraq goes, can someone site one situation where a country was rebuilt succesfully while occupied by an invading country?

waits for someone to mention Japan

The problem in our system is that a voter or a party that is independent of the two entrenched powers has almost zero chance of making any meaningful difference. In some nations, the percentage of a vote that a party gets in elections translates directly into a percentage of seats in the legislature.

Ross Perot is the most successful independent candidate in recent history, he got something like 20 percent of the vote which is unbelievable. It doesn’t matter, he got absolutely zilch for it, and his viewpoint meant nothing to the other two parties. Without runoff elections or percentage-based legislature, we’re going to continue seeing an either-or, zero-sum election procedure.

ps: The reason ‘rebuilding’ Japan worked, is because the Japanese willingly went forward and weren’t fighting us tooth and nail. The Emperor spoke, and the people obeyed (the main reasons we kept the Emperor around, of course, and allowed the people to maintain the imperial system). Thereafter, anyone who continued resisting the American occupation effort wasn’t a freedom fighter, but a traitor to the emperor.

If there was an Iraqi figure that everyone in the country absolutely respected, loved, and swore undying loyalty to, and that figure told them to endure the unendurable and allow us to occupy their country, well. Things would go differently.

The REAL problem is people actually believe the stuff that comes out of FOX News…

Anybody remember when they were saying Obama went to radical Islamic school? Or that they found wmds? lol

Thank you - the american taxpayers money is never best spent overseas and its time it was stopped. Besides when it comes to the middle east - the people there already know what type of “help” and “policing” the US involves itself in when it comes to that region and has no reason to trust the US.

But the problem that remains is…who are our close allies? Thats what we need to re-evaluate - no more alliances with corrupt leaders, we should remain neutral. Saddam used to be the third largest recipient of US aid during the 80’s - and at present it looks like people such as the corrupt leaders of Saudia Arabia and Israel continue to receive massive amounts of aid from us and it does the American people not one damn bit of good.

Haha that Obama thing was so fucking stupid. Oh my god he went to a MADRASSA…and…that word sounds bad!!! 5 seconds of research would’ve told them it means “school”.

Nothing is more broken that Marvel :bluu:

Marvel isn’t broken…

its just random right lol :lovin: