Decision 2008: The Presidential Election Thread

Nah, being “informed” doesn’t make you a voter. It probably does the opposite.

Lawyers are probably the most “informed” profession when it comes to politics. But lawyers for the most part don’t bother voting. Why? Because your vote is worthless and doesn’t mean anything. Lawyers instead just go lobby whoever gets elected.

They teach you how worthless voting is pretty early on in law school, especially if you actually know the right people. I was more or less told if I run for political office in the future and maintain certain ties the elections will be fixed for me, just as they are for pretty much every election that occurs anyway. So even if you were informed and thought that voting mattered and you should do it, it makes no difference because someone will just mess around with the totals to get it the way they want.

Man the common masses are so fucking dumb. You idiots really don’t understand how anything works do you?

madd black people say that
its like theyre afraid of having a black pres
i guess it will be harder to reconcile their paranoia with that fact

Maybe but David Palmer lasted a full term as president and then some during the Day 4 crisis. Though terrorists did poison him while he was in office. So if Obama wants to stay alive he should stop shaking hands and using cell phones.

I’m probably going to get a knock on the door from the Secret Service now.

Never rely on young people, do you honestly think 20-somethings will wait in line (much less a LONG line with lots of waiting) to register and vote? When they can be doing something that they would rather do? (get laid, get drunk, get whatever)

Young people suck, it’s all about the elderly, since they always vote in record numbers.

The young people movement didn’t help Howard Dean, it didn’t help John Kerry, it didn’t help Ned Lamont, and there is no way it will help Ron Paul, hell Obama even, but at least Obama can get the undecided/independent/centralist Republicans on board.

Proof that Ron Paul is Racist, amongst many other things

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129

These are excerpts from his own newsletter in the 90s describing MLK Jr as a gay pedophine and refers to forced integration of blacks and whites as evil. Thats in addition to the rioting and welfare checks comment and telling how to shoot a young person and hide the evidence. Theres links to the actual excerpts of the newsletter as well.

CNN news got a hold of the newsletter and here it is claiming that he never read or endorsed what was written in his own newsletter for years, nor did he care to find out who was responsible for posting racist remarks in his name for all those years.


part 2 of cnn interview

The Ron Paul movement is officially over

Take THAT hipsters!!! :lol:

Wrong. Actually statistics have shown that the younger generation has been coming out to the polls in record numbers recently. And being over 20 doesn’t mean someone’s opinion about politics is a more knowledgeable one than someone thats younger. Go to any university and the lecture halls are usually packed for debates, speeches and conferences.

I guess this thread beckons an av change until my main man wins it all.

Anyhow, thanks to whoever posted that ron paul racism thing. Its tough to get these paul fanatics out my face but you just made it much much easier.

No prob. These Ron Paul fanatics have taken over a lot of the hip hop forums like sohh.com and even youtube. I can’t even watch a Tupac or Nas video on youtube without some dumb ass Ron Paul fanatics recruiting for new supports.

I’m not a fan of Ron Paul, but neither of Obama.

Here is information based not on myself but based on the link.

Obama is even more racist than Ron.

He’s as racist as Hitler during Nazi Germany because of “black power” just like the Nazis with their “white power.”

Proof: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RB7XkZUIHEQ&feature=related

Direct Quote:

“If he was a white man” “I guarantee you that it would be a big deal”
“because he’s black” “he’s able to get away with it”

You call something on FOX NEWS "proof? When does fox news not smear the left side?

You people are gullible fools if you believe Ron Paul is a racist, because this newsletter decided to RESURFACE at such an “in-opurtune time”(sarcasm). Stop playing the god damn race card. To be a libertarian and then to be a racist is a friggin oxy-moron. Use some common-sense. Like he said, don’t you think there’s a clip floating out there or ACTUAL documentation AKA a speech given with quotes where he slips up.

Give me a fuckin break with this Ron Paul is racist bullshit. He’s the only one that realizes the racial profiling shit that goes on in the drug wars and said he would pardon all non-violent drug related crimes. SRK is definitely not the place to be talkin politics, hell this whole election is bullshit because people won’t wake the eff up and think for themselves for once instead of what the media wants you to think.

And about all the other candidates. No one, and I mean no one other than Dr. Paul would address our economic problem at the heart. If our Dollar tanks, say goodbye to pretty much everything that makes America great. Adios liberties when the economy and the dollar heads into oblivion. And then Democrats want Socialized programs and everyone on the Republican side but Dr. Paul wants to increase spending via tax cuts while keeping our militiary empire around the globe.

Common sense people, use it.

Sean Hannity!? LMAO yeah, like Sean Hannity the Right Wing cheerleader or FOX News is a credible source. Please tell me this isn’t your evidence against Obama, please. If thats the case lets go down the presidential candidate line and see who else we can call “racist”.

Mitt Romney

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John McCain (from most recent debate)

and yes, McCain gets away with alot of stuff like that.

My point exactly.

Ron being racist and Obama being racist is just politics, but if you think that all the candidates are clean you are so wrong.

You can quote me on the following: I’m sure all the candidates are like an iceberg, in the sense that you only see a piece of the dirt.

So far it’s difficult to tell who has less dirt, the main thing that one can do for now is just go by what each one says they’ll do. Based on that, Ron is more appealing than Obama to me, but I don’t like either and unless I will like anyone I’m probably not going to vote, which would be an infinitesimal contribution anyway.

Come on though dude. We all now politicians are not to be trusted fully. But theres better ways to debate them or their supporters than this “racist” stuff. Call people on their positions and votes and if you disagree with some then call out there supporters for supporting them on that issue.

Post 52 was a setup (which you fell for) for post 56 which was in reaction to post 46.

Also if you reread post 56 before making post 57 you’ll see that I address that.

And this is why people continue to not give a shit about the 18-29 year old age group in elections.

Libertarians can’t be racist. Ron Paul is a Libertarian. Therefore, Ron Paul can’t be racist.

Can anyone else spot the flaw in this line of logic?

I doubt this is true.

By restoring the dollar to the gold standard? It’s great that he has a plan, but I prefer such plans to be feasible.

I didn’t realize that refusing to vote if there are no good candidates is unique to young people. I can’t wait until I’m 30 so I can pick my favorite bad candidate and vote for him based on bullshit and lies.

There are three faults here.

First of all you pulled 18-29 out of your ass.

Second, you assume no one gives a shit when they care about votes. More is always better.

Third, you assumed my age was in the range 18-29.

There’s a saying you know. Think before you act.

Randomly voting isn’t a good choice.