Decapre Labwork Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Option selects. These are from reasonable game situations. It’s possible for these to work on more characters, but it might require weird crossup empty jump shorts and stuff and I’m looking for consistency here.

cr.short, sweep

Catches backdash: Abel, Cody, E.Honda, El Fuerte, Gouken, Hakan(dry only), Hugo, Juri, Ken, Rolento, Ryu, Sagat, Sakura, T.Hawk

cr.jab, sweep

Catches backdash: Abel, Adon, Akuma, Cammy, Cody, E.Honda, Elena, El Fuerte, Gouken, Guile, Hakan(dry only), Hugo, Juri, Ken, M.Bison, Oni, Poison, Rolento, Rufus, Ryu, Sagat, Sakura, T.Hawk, Vega, Yang, Yun

Will update as i test more stuff then throw it in the op

lp hands empty jump low short, os hp dp~lk

Catches backdash: Sim

Whats cool about this is that it’ll beat wakeup 3f moves, and you can confirm cr.lk, st.lk, cr.lp, cr.mk if he happens to get hit.

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So Ves, the option select ---- c.short, sweep will not work on Zangief? I was getting worked the other evening by a local Gief who would on wakeup backdash then SPD. I got caught so many times but his backdash was so free on wakeup.

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It’s possible to os a few more characters with sweep just not consistently.

I need to test os st.mp, hk, and hp still, but iirc they all work on gief.

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So do you plink cr lk cr hk to utilize this OS?

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New combo stuff will update as i work on it

cr.hp, st.lp, cr.hp fadc, cl.mp, cr.hp, hp sting does 394/690 works on Sagat so far alternate ender of cl.mp, cr.mp, far mp xx hp sting does 392/662

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Wouldn’t s.hp, c.hp, fadc be better for scaling omitting the jab

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Also you can c.hp, far s.mp xx hp stinger now

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you get 18 more damage but 62 less stun. I value the stun higher. Also the cr.hp starter is more realistic

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Want to eventually make a consolidated matchup thread of some sort, gonna add data here until i have enough characters

Abel

optimal combos

Confirm
cr.LK, cr.lp, far lp, far mp xx
cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.hp, far lk xx
cr.lp, cr.hp, far mp xx

Meterless Punish
TC1
cr.hp, far mp xx
cl.hp, cr.hp, HP Psycho Sting
cl.mp, cr.mp, st.lk xx MP Psycho Sting, MP Psycho Sting(corner)

strike crouching or standing
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx RES 292/450
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Rapid Daggers 306/520
EXCS cl.MP, cr.HP, far LK xx hp Rapid Daggers 311/515
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Psycho Sting 348/506

strike standing(corner)
EXCS cl.MP, cr.MP, far LK xx MP Psycho Sting, MP Psycho Sting 377/513

Primary Post BNB setup(RES)

walk back, nj.hp(os b.throw) safejumps ex tt/cod, armor cancel TT whiffs, ex falling sky trades, EX Roll gets os thrown.

cr.lp, wait 1-2f~, nj.hp(os b.throw) safejumps ex tt/ex cod, armor cancel TT whiffs, ex falling sky trades, EX roll gets os thrown. If DWU can instant overhead jb.lp to beat db, tt’s, loses to ex falling sky and ex cod/can jb ex spiral to beat backdash, TTS, loses to ex falling sky and EX COD.

Primary Post BNB setup(Daggers)

Walk ambig j.hp. Makes all his reversals whiff. If no quickrise immediate nj.HP and it turns into the 2nd RES setup.

Can replicate the above setup for DWU with an immediate cr.mk then jumping. If they don’t DWU you can react to that, then work in ex scramble/overhead mixups.

Primary Post BNB setup(Double Psycho Sting)

jf.hk, os b.throw EX TT whiffs, EX Falling Sky is stuffed or whiffed, safejumps EX COD, Armor Cancel TT whiffs, throws EX Roll, loses to backdash. Can change os to cover backdash instead of EX Roll.

**Corner Setups after RES **

cr.lp, mk scramble immediate hk divekick(os b.throw). stuffs ex tt/u1, armor cancel tt whiffs, os throw covers ex roll, backdash avoids os throw, loses to ex COD(40 damage). If Abel has no meter os cr.hp or target combo

cr.lp, mk scramble immediate hp break. crosses up, unsafe

cr.lp, mk/hk scramble immediage mp break, cr.lp. crossup jab and you’re at + frames

cr.lp, hk scramble divekick. (depending on height/version can get all sorts of options.) immediate LK = whiffs vs. back, crossups up downback, forwards block and you land behind. Probably your best option for representing a crossup out of this option tree as it’s much safer than hp break

Midscreen Backthrow Crossup

b.throw, walk a bit, far lp xx cr.lp, j.hp

Left Corner setups

b.throw whiff far mp j.hp - hits crossup lands crossup. roll auto corrects into the corner, everything else whiffs.
b.throw whiff far mp j.mp - hits front lands fron. roll auto corrects into the corner, everything else whiffs.

Right Corner setups

b.throw whiff far mp j.hp - hits crossups lands crossup. roll auto corrects into the corner, everything else whiffs.
b.throw whiff far mp j.mp - hits front lands crossup. roll auto corrects into the corner everything else whiffs.

Target Combo Crossup

TC1, immediate air throw, cr.lk, j.hp

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Adon

optimal combos

Confirm
cr.lk, cr.lp, far lp, far mp xx
cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.hp, hp Sting(standing only)
cr.lp, cr.hp, far mp xx (Standing only)
cr.lp, cr.mp, cr.mk(cr.) or far mp(st.) xx

Meterless Punish
TC1
cr.hp, far mp xx

strike crouching or standing
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx RES 292/450
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Rapid Daggers 306/520
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Psycho Sting 348/506

strike standing
EXCS cr.MP, cr.MP, far MP xx RES 294/410

Primary Post BNB setup(LP or MP Daggers)

j.hk, os sweep safejump, sweep catches backdash

Primary Post BNB setup(RES)

Walk back, walk forward, HK scramble delayed MK divekick Makes all his reversals whiff. Can crossup, usually crouchable.

**Corner Setups after RES **

cr.lp, mk scramble immediate hp break. crosses up, unsafe

cr.lp, mk/hk scramble immediate mp break, cr.lp. crossup jab and you’re at + frames

Midscreen Backthrow Unblockable

b.throw, step far MK, j.LK

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Ves, I love you

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I’m gonna try to do 1-2 a day now instead of 1-2 a month. I’ll also add fadc combos in at some point. It’s justttt slow.

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if you need help or anything just say it :stuck_out_tongue:

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If someone started from the opposite side of the cast alphabetically I wouldn’t mind.

Anyways gonna crank 2 of these out in the next few hours.

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Akuma

optimal combos

Confirm
cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mp, far mp xx
cr.lp, cr.hp, far mp xx
cr.lp, cl.mp, cr.mp, far mp(st.)/cr.mk(cr.) xx RES/Daggers

Meterless Punish
TC1
cr.hp, far mp xx
cl.mp, cr.mp, far mp(st.)/cr.mk(cr.) xx

strike crouching or standing
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx RES 292/450
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Rapid Daggers 306/520
EXCS cr.HP, far MP xx HP Psycho Sting 348/506

crossup strike confirms

cl.mp, far mp xx RES(if you crossup)
cl.mp, cr.mp, far mp(st.)/cr.mk(cr.) xx RES(if you do not crossup)

Primary Post BNB setup(RES)

walk back, walk forward, HK Scramble MK Divekick Usually only blockable one way, will cause reversals to whiff. If you anticipate a back teleport, you can MK scramble j.hk instead into a jumpin combo! I recommend only doing 2 mediums back into RES. This can be somewhat baited with U2 and even just using Kick teleport though so keep it in mind.

Primary Post BNB setup(Daggers)

Walk ambig j.lk tends to stuff dp in grounded frames or make it whiff.

Midscreen Backthrow Unblockable

b.throw, step, st.mk, j.lk

Target Combo Crossup

TC1, immediate air throw, cr.lk, j.lk stuffs dp in grounded frames or makes it whiff

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im lazy to do zangief tbh lol

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i started balrog and accidentally deleted it about 3/4’s of the way done. oops

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vs. Yun

holding focus through far mp xx shoulder xx RFC will cause the RFC to whiff. you can punish with u2, walk up into a combo, or even a scramble divekick into a combo.

this is also possible staring from a blocked st.mp wtih reversal scramble, where the rfc will whiff.

This is a pretty hard read, you’re better off usually reaction lp/ex stinging the far mp if it’s in range to be punished as it will cover both cancel/not cancel, but it’s something to keep in mind if you are focusing vs. him.

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you can do that vs gief`s st.lk xx gh xx rfc too

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Vs. Rufus

cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mp xx HP Psycho and cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mp sting hits meaty when he’s crouching

off of a crossup ex strike you can do cr.lp, cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mp or the inconsistent cl.lp, cr.mp cr.mp(jab tends to whiff off of him being in reel animation)

off of a frontside ex strike you can do cl.lp, cr.mp, cr.mp xx MP Sting