Dead or Alive 5

This as well. I will say that this DoA has the most realistic looking woman in the series. Personally I think some of the girls in TT2 look more realistic, but not all of them.

And what’s wrong with looking at nice girls… as long as they aren’t useless as well. I mean, I can see feminists going after girls like this in games because it treats them as sex symbols, but people in real life may dress the same way, because they want to.

I can see putting Kasami in a sexy outfit might be OOC and mainly just for sexy, but Christie that tottally fits. She’s an Assassin, and frequently uses her own body to help her jobs. Isn’t that a strong feminist move? To use how man go gaga over your tits to help kill them?

Ok, I got off topic there.

zferoliE: Nah, it’s not as off-topic as you think. DOA makes significant use of sex appeal, and discussing that part of the franchise is valid. As far as “What’s wrong with looking,” that’s a good question. I’ve raised it to a variety of people out of curiosity, and as you might imagine I got a variety of answers. In some cases your Christie example fits, I seem to recall the devs getting a similar response from female players when testing… what was it, Red Lotus? A game about a seductively-clad female Japanese assassin, who used her body to distract some of her targets. Women being shown the game apparently didn’t like this aspect at first, until the devs noted it was an assassination tactic; then they warmed up to it considerably.

I’ve also heard responses on an equality standpoint, like: “Well, Game X had a strong male hero who had normal attire for his gender and life, and Game Y’s female hero is equally strong… but does she really need to be in a bikini? Game X’s hero wasn’t in swim trunks.” It’s hard to mount any real come-back to that, because they’ve got a point. On the other hand, I’ve seen women who willingly dress up as Cammy, Mai Shiranui, Celes Chere (FF6 SNES sprite form) and so on. Not as some booth babe gig at a convention or game industry trade show, but they actually wanted to.

The lesson I learned from that is that different people, of both genders, have different opinions on the topic. Maybe there is a one true answer to the question, maybe there isn’t. I sure as hell don’t know it, and unless I somehow find an irrefutable, definitely true way to view this… I’m not going to push my views on others. One supposes a decent fix in the meantime is offering a variety of outfits for the player’s character so you can pick and choose what you like.

To move to matters of the game itself: I’ve been enjoying it and look forward to getting in some more matches with a wider pool (edit: previously said ‘wider poor’, what the hell was I thinking!?) of players. I still need to improve, but some parts are very satisfying already. I’m not sure which title I’ll be able to devote significant time to at this point, but DOA5 is definitely on my list of ones I’m considering as ‘main games.’ If I do end up dropping it, it will only be with great reluctance… just don’t have enough time in the day to regularly play every good fighting game out there.

On the reviews: Glanced through a few of these, noticed one guy was upset by the sweat effects. I have news for him; it can be easily turned off through the Options menu. Sure, I would rather the series put a little less emphasis on certain things in the visuals… but when you look past them, as others have urged in this thread, there’s a good game underneath. Someone else mistaking Gen Fu for a VF character is pretty embarrassing, even if you do unlock him in the exact same way you get the VF guests.

Yeah by the way, how do you unlock the other characters? And more costumes?

As far as I can tell, this is a function of Story Mode for most characters, and Arcade Mode for most costumes. For costumes, you take your character of choice through Arcade Mode, clear it on a certain difficulty, and you get a new costume. I imagine more complete details will be coming in the following days as people share notes and figure out the most efficient methods.

I unlocked Akira, Pai, Sarah, and Gen Fu in story mode. Winning certain fights will give you access to them, one at a time. Alpha-152 is apparently unlockable too, but those of us with pre-release copies couldn’t reach an agreement on how exactly you did it so I didn’t have access to this character during the review. Unlocking these characters is more time-consuming than hard. Most of the story mode fights are either very easy (you can win just doing a routine of “block their attacks, punish”) or are set up so the AI explicitly does things meant to make you use what the tutorial just talked about. That is, if the tutorial was talking about how throws beat a certain option… you can probably win by just pressing throw a lot. Same thing for whatever other concept was discussed in the pre-fight text; it’s probably the right solution for the fight. There are a few where this isn’t true, but for the most part it’s really easy to unlock characters and finish story mode.

So I’m at Rigs story, how much longer before I unlock Pai? I’ll look again at the mechanics once I unlock all the characters but so far from what I know of the mechanics this game is still limited in options.

Should be semi-close, but I admit I kind of did that part late at night and don’t remember the exact time I got each character.

I do remember the order, though. Akira, then Sarah, then Pai, then Gen Fu (still haven’t gotten Alpha 152 yet). So if you already have Akira and Sarah, Pai should be next.

So dudes, how is this game? I’ve never really played much of DoA in the past… how is it shaping up?

Ok…got back from gym and picked up CE on way home and finished importing ost CD to computer and other miscellaneous stuff…

Let me stick that cd now and ill be back here later

PS DoA 5 Ost has some good tracks after a few listens, especially the lyrical ones

I heard that the Counter Reversal Window on DOA5 has been cut in half so it’s much harder to do a counter.

Is this true?

Yes.

I want to play, but I am also DLing One Piece Pirate Warrior, and I am afraid playing the game will mess up the DL. It’s 11 gigs big…

Most definitely. I tried tossing them out at random during some opponents’ combos and got absolutely plowed for it. I had to have better timing and a pretty good idea what kind of move they were going to do before I made any real progress with Holds.

Combo Throw escapes also require timing. I set a training dummy to do a recording of some Combo Throws, set my Throw button to turbo-fire, and… it didn’t work. Pressing it once with correct timing, however? That got me out.

In my opinion, it’s terrific. Mechanics are much smoother, the graphics are a lot nicer, the faces look a lot more real, the counter hold issue has been fixed/nerfed, and the dynamic stage interaction makes everything over the top in just the right kind of way. Of course, if you don’t want to deal with stage cinematics you can turn that off too. The new characters are pretty great as well. I’m currently maining Mila, and she’s a blast. Her mix up options are pretty nice and she’s a great cross between Bayman and Hitomi.

Of course, it won’t be as popular as one of Crapcom’s games, but here’s to hoping this game changes a lot of the naysayer’s minds. The DOA community needs to be a lot stronger than it is right now, because this is a great franchise and this is currently the best addition to the series.

tl;dr: Buy it.

What the hell is all the fuss I’ve been hearing about that game? What is it exactly? I know what One Piece is, but I’ve never heard of this game before a few days ago.

I blame Matthew Fox and Wentworth Miller, the dude that played his brother who is also Dracula in blade 3, and Channing Tatum.

It’s pretty much a One piece Video game that plays like a mix of Dynasty Warriors and and action adventure game. I’m a huge fan of One Piece myself, and I didn’t even know it was supposed to come out today

I agree completely with your points. I just hate seeing a game being bashed for being Sexist instead of sexy. It all goes with context I think.

Which reminds me, does Origins come out tonight?

Well, considering that he’s co-workers with a well known DOA player (DrDogg, who also wrote the guide and, I believe is also helping run this in IPL), I’m not surprised.

any word on which version (ps3 or 360) is the better one?