I do however like the part where Clark is the real person and supes is the disguise to a certain extent but also like the old status quo to some extent, I’ll be glad to ellaborate on that later G00dy
If they re-invent everything and say post Infinite Crisis Supes had appearances Pre-Metropolis…
then that means even Birthright has been retconned out.
I can’t believe I’m saying this:
WTF is all the shit about Post-this and Pre-that?
Which Crisis? Dr. Light’s/Batman’s thing? Or is it the Harbinger/Luthor 50,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earths thing?
I don’t care what they do with it at this point, but if they’re going to do another retcon, they should do this: 1. pick a previous version of the character, 2. restore him, and 3. just STOP.
Superman does not need another retelling of his origin story. It is the most shamelessly reused superhero story I can think of.
The original Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline in the 1980s. The ending of it coincided with the controversial rebooting of the Superman books by John Byrne.
All the Crises are connected, right?
I don’t fucking know anymore. I need Doc Brown to draw me a diagram.
wtf…you and painy were saying Flash was the greatest thing since sliced bread loooong after blitz. Now zephy has you saying different?
I borrowed Love and Murder from the library a couple months ago, too. I thought it was horrible, though. I’ve never read any of Jodi Picoult’s novels but I’m definitely not gonna bother now that I’ve read her Wonder Woman.
Gail Simone’s writing the series now, I think. So it’s probably better than Picoult’s run.
They got mindwiped.
I agree with goodm0urning. Superman of all people does not need a retelling of his origin story, if you don’t already know what it is, then you won’t ever.
Hmmm i read it last night. I dont think it is that bad but then I never read wonder woman before. The one thing i didnt like about was that she was trying to make her a female clark kent and wonder woman clearly had no idea what she was doing. Overall it was a fair read at least I didnt purchase the book. The “bitch” comments was a bit annoying. Who was this nemesis clown anyway and why would Wonder Women fall for a guy like this?
so I was reading some of my batman archives and superman archives (both vol. 1) and despite my bias towards batman I must say that the golden age superman books are more enjoyable to read than batman. plus I cant stand how after a while batman stops looking mean and scary and starts being colored blue and grinning like an idiot all the time (around the time they introduced robin?).
how is the golden age sandman?
also, do they have archive books in paperback? $50 is pretty steep for my budget
Blitz is the peak. That was the ending of the Kolins/Johns god run.
Then you had Porter in, and it just wasn’t the same.
It was still great, the best superhero comic out there, but something was missing, that was of course Kolins. I mean Turners covers are okay, but he draws EVERYONE the same, and I missed seeing the monthly Kolins awesomeness.
I think I stopped reading a little bit after Rogues war. I believe Johns left after Rogues War was finished, or a little bit after that.
So I mean dumb as in “Scott Kolins left and that made me sad because that run was completely dominant and not nearly as appreciated as it should have been”
Also, Ever only started reading Flash because I told him. He is a biter.
I just picked up Batman: Dark Victory.
What the fuck is wrong with Loeb? When him and Sale partner it’s like the greatest work ever, but when he solo’s he just makes complete shit most of the time (I do like his current Hulk run so far though).
I just need Haunted Night to complete my trilogy now.
The buildup to Blitz made the whole Johns/Kolins run epic, and that was a fantastic ending. I think the TPB after Blitz, Ignition, is still really good, too. It feels different from all of the other arcs and the noirish artwork was an intriguing fit for a moody arc.
And I think that Haunted Knight TPB kinda sucks ass. It’s just a collection of three or four Halloween-themed one-shots. The art is all right, but it’s not as good as Sale’s later works. The whole thing is probably on the same level as their Wolverine/Gambit miniseries… It’s a bunch of tripe. Too bad I already sold my copy of it or I would pay you to take it.
I used to really like the Loeb/Sale team but now that Loeb’s written so many comics without Sale, it’s evident that he’s (Loeb) lost his touch. Scratch that - I’m sure he never even HAD it in the first place. Anything good with Loeb’s name on it is purely a result of having Tim Sale doing all the heavy lifting. And even some of the stuff that does have Tim Sale’s art still sucks, like Haunted Knight, Wolverine/Gambit, and Heroes (haha. Yeah, I went there.).
They’re teaming up again to make Captain America: White. At this point I don’t think I am going to bother.
The most maddening thing is that Loeb’s ham-fisted writing sometimes drags down even Sale’s most top-notch artwork. There are a few panels in A Superman for All Seasons that make me want to feed Loeb to the Internet.
I never understood what ham-fisted meant
Hmm true Zephy, I guess I won’t bother with Haunted Knight, I was wondering how it tied in with the other two, I suppose it doesn’t then.
Anything new in the world of DC?
Means he has the subtlety of a sledgehammer. His attempts to be clever come across as somebody’s attempts to be clever. In his overzealousness, he overwrites.
Those panels I was talking about from A Superman for All Seasons? Typically they involve Loeb putting massive blocks of narration in to explain everything that’s on a character’s mind. This can be used for stylistic reasons, but usually it ends up being a crutch. In this case, not only does this spoonfeed the reader, but there’s so much of it that he often puts it over action. That is an amateur-level mistake.
Also see Heavy handed, or just watch some of the more worse episodes of the ol’ Boondocks.
so I guess that makes Stan Lee the king of ham-fisted writing?
because I REALLY need Spider-Man to declare that he is shooting a web even though I can clearly see webbing being shot out.
its a fucking chore to read his writing sometimes.
I appreciate what the man did for the industry, but reading his comics is the worst fucking torture I’ve put myself through.