DC Comics Thread

Abu Dhabi, how about you?

Batman Inc. Leviathan book was awesome. Ditto for Batman and Nightwing. Justice League was entertaining too. Really good DC week!

Yup Batman Inc and JL were fantastic IMO.
I always love a fast paced thrilling Morrison book :slight_smile:

Personally I hated the big twist at the end of Inc, really cliche turn for that character.

Me personally I’ve always been a Talia x Batman fan and one gripe I have about Morrison is how he always depicts her as a psycho. But eh it’s all good I guess because they have a kid together and most people are Catwoman x Batman fans so they can still dream. But they’ll never have a kid so nya nya na nya nya. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m more of a fan of Starfire x Nightwing too but I know most people prefer Barbara so I never had high hopes for that one. Didn’t expect DC to resolve this by turning her into Slutfire though. :frowning:

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Say speaking of Nightwing:
I once saw panels from a Batman comic; I don’t know which comic it’s from exactly, but it had Robin (Rick Grayson) and Batgirl (Barbra) cramped in a box trap of sorts; anyone know which comic this is?
Also; when NightwingxBarbara start?

Nightwing Annual #2 released in 2007. This site goes into detail. He gives it a bad review, but personally I liked the issue.

http://www.4thletter.net/2007/04/on-nightwing-annual-2/

Lol I don’t know when it started, these characters have been around longer than I’ve been alive. The annual covers the cliff notes. Just ignore the part that makes Starfire look like a rebound girl. At the time I spoke with the writer online and he said that was not his intention and he’d love to write a follow up that didn’t make Starfire look that way. I smell the mighty hand of editorial all over this one. Or the writer just telling fans what they want to hear. Who knows.

Well if you’re a fan of Slutfire then sure look at her as a rebound girl. It works now. :crybaby:

After reading Hush’s profile in Arkham City I can understand a lot of people’s opinions about him being a lame villain. His background just doesn’t sound believable at all. I can’t believe that a child would try and kill his parents for their inheritance money and would be angered that Bruce’s father saved one of them and was plotting to get back at the Waynes for decades.

Hmm, have you read Wolverine and the X-Men? What did you think of the current Hellfire Club?

@Sano- I don’t like Slutfire…

I only looked at the original Hush story, so I don’t know about all that ish. (Though he’s still lame.) The bigger problem is the storytelling, which is bogged down by busy visuals and has more gratuitous twists than M. Night’s entire ouevre.

In other news, I’ve been trying to get my girlfriend to read The Sandman for years, and it still isn’t taking.

Erica Durance, AKA Lois Lane on Smallville will wear the Wonder Woman outfit from the rejected TV show in an upcoming episode of Harry’s Law. Hey the outfit still sucks but she looks better than that other chick lol!

Name of the lady who shows up in all of the 52 #1s revealed.

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I hope they don’t end up doing something stupid with her

Hope it’s OK to ask this here: does anyone know where I can read Will Eisner’s comic book/graphic novel bibliography?

Just wanted to re-ask a question that was sort of half answered last time I asked it. I never quite understood why Clark felt the need to dedicate his life helping others rather than just trying to fit in with normal society or using his powers to make life easier for himself. He seems to be a prime leader in groups like he’s the most wise and dedicated of them all, but I don’t see why.

With Bruce he wants to wipe crime his parents were victims of it and the city he grew up in was corrupted and hadn’t changed from the time he was a child until he was an adult. If Gotham’s corruption had extinguished in between that time I doubt he would’ve still became the Batman.

In Marvel you have Peter whose motives are quite clear. At first he was going to use his new powers to benefit himself which I would think a lot of people would try to do and while being concerned about that his Uncle Ben was murdered by a thief he ignored to stop and he felt personally responsible for his death and so wanted to make up for it by preventing the same thing from happening to anyone else.

Bibliography? As in the list of his complete works? Wikipedia has a listing that appears to be complete.

If you’re looking to get into Eisner and haven’t already (I’m presuming a lot, so feel free to tell me to fuck off if I’m wrong), there’s a very nicestarter collection of The Spirit, and then there’s the compendium New York: Life in the Big City, which is an excellent introduction to his “comeback” period.

The short answer is that it’s a part of the very fiber of his being. He doesn’t really have a dollar book Freud explanation for why he has the urge to do good. He was raised in a community that encouraged selfless behavior, coupled with the fact that his heritage is of a civilization that strove to fulfill its capacity for good until the end of its days. He’s not really interested in cleaning up crime, so much as helping humanity to realize its own potential–and to do that, he must first realize the potential in himself.


In other news, I bought new comics (well, a new comic) for maybe the first time since All Star Superman #12. I realize I have a generally shitty attitude towards reboots and revamps, but I figured I might just give the new Action Comics series a shot. I also picked up the first Invisibles TPB, which I haven’t read yet. It’s going to be a very Grant Morrison (post-)holiday for me.

Thanks mate, I read Wikipedia’s list but assumed it may have been incomplete.

You make him sound like he’s God or some kind of saint.

Some authors have interpreted him that way.

I think he’s “just” a man, but he’s a man who genuinely sees the best in people and wants to bring it out. People with this way of thinking exist all over the place, but most of them don’t have super-strength.

One element of his characterization that’s kind of been lost to time is that he used to be much more in opposition to the status quo. He recognized that human civilization makes a lot of its own obstacles, in the form of greed, corruption, runaway ambition, and so forth. He would go after petty thugs and well-to-do crooks all the same, and he wasn’t too saintly to throw them around if they had it coming.

I think this element is important to understanding the character and his mindset. Take it away and his neverending battle doesn’t make quite as much sense. A Superman who doesn’t fight the status quo (and sometimes even protects it) is less noble.

Alas, after World War II, the government and parental advocacy groups came down hard on the superhero genre, and while Superman has survived, he has recovered in fits and starts. There are still many authors who insist that Superman has to be a turn-the-other-cheek, follow-the-letter-of-the-law character, which isn’t very appealing. It’s very much in keeping with the domesticated version of the character bred by the 1950s.

Pandora really bro?

Also can anyone here actually tell me whats the top speed flash every achieved? it doesnt matter who barry, wally etc…