After playing Zoolanders MK for a quite a few days now I’m convinced that MK is invincible during his tornado. No attacks can get through the sides, and from what I’ve seen he can’t be hit out of the tornado from the top. I’ve “keyed” him several times with G&W, and it get’s blocked while I get sucked in.
You rock zoolander; my G&W can hardly keep up anymore 
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LOL thx.
Actually the top of the tornado is the most vulnerable, and a few things can go through the sides of it (like marth’s shield breaker). The key your referring to is gnw’s dair right? Well it CAN’T go through tornado even from the top anytime you did it was because you hit me before the tornado animation started.
that side b drill has horrible startup/priority…use sparingly…but otherwise, MK is a lovely beast 
I think it has great startup and AMAZING priority IT GOES THROUGH HALF THE PROJECTILES IN THE GAME!
Like I said before against anyone with a projectile or a sword you will be using this A LOT.
Good quote about “tiering” EVERYTHING. Heh.
Anyway, on topic: That video is pretty damn good. Also, I’ve been wondering if Gimpyfish is Gimpy. I guess I got my answer.
How good is SH slash on a guy as short as Meta? In that video, the move seems to miss a lot. The only thing that seemed to connect (not the tornado, by the way), was that groundsmash. Not sure which direction it was, but Gimpy gets pretty much all his kills with it.
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Now what am I supposed to do? :lol:
So I just started playing this guy, he’s way too much fun. It’s either kill or be killed with him. What else should I do with him besides tornadoes?
Read my longass post above it might help.
In general you want to be aggressive because mk is very good at dealing lots of damage and he’s fast so use that to your advantage. The best approach is SH fair IMO it’s his best move because it’s very fast, recovers fast, has a big hitbox, it’s usually safe if shielded, and does very good knockback so you should spam this a lot using it as your main way to get in your opponents face. Dash attack is also a good approach because it launches them in the air which is where mk wants to be, it’s important to get the momentum going as in once you hit them you keep pressuring them with more quick hits.
After you get them around 100% you can start using your kill moves (dsmash, fsmash, nair, and upB) Remember if you use a normal move too much it gets weaker in damage and knockback so try to mix it up.
I could go on and on about what to do and what not to do but the mk threads on smashboards explains it much better then I ever could check there.
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It does seem quite safe. So…was Gimpy “going easy” on the other guys? Is Olimar “bad” at defending/countering the tornado?
(By the way, Gimpy loses this match. Still good to watch.)
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I want to play MK so that I harass the shit out of the guy when he’s off the ledge. What does Gimpy “do wrong” here?
No one seems to mention this about Mach Tornado (I don’t know why) but it beats out the usually invincible recovery move off the edge.
Just hit it as you see them start to move off the ledge, and you will always beat out their attack.
That’s cuz we all just assume tornado beats out 99% of all moves in brawl:rofl:
I hate fucking Meta Knight.
No Shit. Metaknight is a blue beast.:lovin:
It still seems like the kind of thing you would mention in a tutorial or a move faq though.
I feel cheap playing metaknight now. I love the character but christ. Tornado + all his pokes are just too good. Dude has no bad matchups.
The only match ups that might give him a hard time are Marth, and Snake…maybe. Both of them are top tier, go figure. The only way to beat Meta Knight is to take advantage of his low weight. Projectile spam is meh, since he can just tornado out of it.
I still don’t think tornado spam is all that good, it can be beaten from my experience. Hell you can even shield grab it.
[edit] I should say, I don’t think tornado spam should make you feel cheap when playing Metaknight since there are ways around it.
How do you shield grab it?
If you space it right, isn’t it impossible to punish? Like if you go in and they block it, either go behind them or pull out? That’s usually what I try to do.
I dunno ask Zoo, when I was fighting him sometimes I’d shield grab it. Also if you DI correctly you can get a fast dair out to disrupt the tornado even if you get hit with it. This is MK vs MK though.
Oh well that explains it then :lol:. Normally when I try shield grabbing I get sucked in anyway, but I guess MK is the only one who can do it.