Dark Slayer Style - The Vergil General Discussion Thread

With DT changing the properties on his special. It makes me wonder if that is where his true combo potential lies.

unless his DT allows him to dash cancel his normals like Mags, I doubt it. DT will give him better openings to rtsd with double jump and air dash. what specials is DT known to alter?

I’m surprised Vergil can’t just frame his Judgment cut special for more Judgment cut orbs.

I’ve been thinking about his combos and how they might end up. I think they might end up looking like this for mid-screen or a variation of it:

:l:,(hold for round trip),:m:,:d::h:(switch fingers from :l: to :h:)xx:qcf: :l: (Judgment cut), :l:(switch back to :l:),:m:,:d::h: xx:dp::m: (Lunar phase), :h:, :f:+:h: (Stinger)xx (release :l: )Round trip, :qcb::h: (Trick Up), j.:d::h: (Helm Breaker), :df::h: (High Time)~:h:(Trick Down) xx Super Judgment cut

Uses both Ground bounce and wall bounce.

Sorry about the H smileys they not working correctly at this moment. Also to note, I’m not sure if you can cancel :f:+:h: (Stinger) into Round trip or any special other than Trick(teleport).

If it does then I’m also not sure if Round trip hits enough or recovers fast enough for you to teleport to j.:d::h:.

Other than end part I’m completely sure all that works. Trying to incorporate his Round trip special into combos. I hope it has some durability perhaps more than Trish’s, so I can use it to keep people locked down.

edited for :h: smilies

Not talking about his normals but his specials. Like Judgement Loops being possible in DT (just example)

So far the most apparent thing DT does is increase the size of his specials (Seth showed DT Rapid Slash too and it was bigger). There may be more to it than that that just isn’t visible, or that just hasn’t been found yet. And who knows? It may even alter stuff like his teleports or Lunar Phase too and we just don’t know…

DT Vergil sounds really fucked up. Dante only gets slight damage buff to his specials but apparently Vergil’s specials flat out change in properties. Sounds interesting.

Granted Dante still gets the two most broken special moves in the game in DT.

I was wondering if they were going to give Dante some DT buffs as his ā€œnew stuffā€ but i’m only grasping lol.

I still want to hope there’s more to Vergil’s DT specials and abilities that we don’t know yet or will soon figure out. I for one would love to see Vergil with the boss/just frame Judgement cuts.

How much have people played around with DT? any attempt at special inputs with :s: or anything? I’m sure something that obvious had to have been checked already but who knows…

At least one person tried S inputs similar to what Dante has in DT, while in DT.

Doesn’t mean that there’s absolutely nothing there to be found. But it does point to them being different in every aspect of their special inputs. Just watch. We’ll get some really ridiculous inputs like u, u + a,b,c,s or something.

Yeah, Max mention in one his vids awhile back that he tried all the S inputs that Dante had in his DT. But nothing came out.

Maa I figured but wasn’t sure. Can’t wait to find the tech that makes DT just as broken as Dante’s lol… (at least here’s hoping, if not we always have Swords :D)

You can at least do Rising Sun. Points to other specials being cancellable into as well, but not necessarily.

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At just after the 6 minute mark. Easier link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQBdoZhyh7Q#t=6m

Thanks for the video, Theli

So theory combo could work hmm…

Mark that down for Day 1 Training mode.

looks like Vergil gets enhanced moves in DT, Dante gets new moves.

Is it just me or does Vergil look alot faster in DT?

So you can combo after judgement L cut without burninng meter?!

Yes. Believe that was shown in some early vids.

k idk if this was discussed here before, but I’m planning on making the Vergil combo thread when the character forums are done. I made the x-23 combo thread and i keep it updated regularly.
I’m bringing this up coz if there’s one thing i HATE about forums is when someone makes an important thread and then becomes inactive or just doesnt give a shit about updating it and it becomes a massive clusterfuck that you cant find anything in.

so yeah I’m planning on making the thread as soon as they make the UMVC3 character forums, if you guys think someone else would be better for making the thread (and keeping it updated) then i dont mind, i just dont want it to be a dumb race for whoever is online at that time so they can make it first and then it just stays there with no info whatsoever.

also, I’m already working on making it a fully blown out thread for everything Vergil related instead of just a combo thread (best example is Karsticle’s Dormammu Guide)

thoughts? yes? No? better candidate to do this?

Care to call it ā€œYou are going down. The Vergil Combo/Strategy Threadā€?

If so, you’ve got my blessing.

So long as your willing to keep it updated then you got my full support. Like you said, there really is nothing I hate more than when someone makes a thread and then deserts it completely.