it builds just over 1 bar
I guess no one thinks of combos the same way I do. I define it as 1 bar, even if takes two, if it pays for one of the 2 bars during the combo. I guess what you guys are saying makes sense. But the combos only **requires **1 bar to do from the start. Then again, combos that require no meter and build 1 and use it up would be āmeterlessā under my definition.
I feel like Vergilās damage output is pretty damn good. If you guys disagree, then why all the claims about ātop tierā, best character in the game. I know damage output is only one factor to making a strong character. But look at vanilla Wolverine, Phoenix, and Weskerā¦ massive damage output. Vergil doesnāt have that. Iām beginning to think Vergil will be a great character, but with medium damage, and death in one combo by some members of the cast (Looking at Ryu and Wesker). Will he really be the cheapest character in the entire game? (Top tier, yes, but best character period, no.)
The bigger thing than the less damage is how much less meter a combo builds now. If you did nice damage in one combo thatās cool but you most likely didnāt come too close to building 2 meters and probably struggled to get 1.25 with a standard damaging combo.
Some characters like Akuma got lowered health but Akuma doesnāt really need health any way. He just needs meter. Zero even got a slight health buff and it actually does account for a slight bit now that meters build less also.
I understand the meter building nerf across the board. But Vergil still builds 1 meter during the third isadelica combo. And wouldnāt less meter building hurt Vergil since heās so reliant on it. Not sure what youāre getting at exactly. If you could clear it up, thatād be great. I just think less meter would lower Vergilās tier if anything like Phoenix.
Wau!, those are some sweat combos, i see a lot off potential for styling combos with all those tolls.
But on the other sideā¦, hate to bring it up again but a lot of those combos, as cool as they are, waste up to 3 meter only to give 600-700k damage in returnā¦, that f**** damage scaling.
Also, is the video yours?
Yes. And I know, but thatās Ultimate marvel for you. Not disappointed by it.
Well it would except for the fact that resets are the new way to build meter. You just have to have a character thatās strong at putting people in nasty situations where they basically have to get hit again after the first time you hit them and a character like Vergil could easily become that type of character IMO.
In siirmiikeās vid Iām certain I saw Vergil taunt and gain like HALF a meter at the end of the She-Hulk combo. Someone please verify this before I get too hype. If this is true it also confirms that his taunt builds meter and is cancelable into DT which would explain the last teaser combo on Taskmaster and how he built that last smidge of meter necessary for his lvl 3
Shhh canāt have you investigating my secret Level 6 Hyper techniques ;]
Why would they give Vergil a taunt that builds meter when he has Spiral Swords and can cancel to Devil Trigger. If this character is cheap enough, Iām with Deviljinās original opinion. That itās kind of boring and Iāll do anything to make him more interesting. If he dominates enough, I hope he gets a patched nerf in a few weeks. Either way, Iāll crush all of the other scrub Vergils.
Iām convinced Wong is just calling every character the best to fuck with everyone. I know I would if people looked to me for what they should think when they could make their own opinions.
I wouldnāt say vergil is OP he has way too many weaknesses. of course hes good with assists like most characters but hes normals recovery way too long and his teleports are very slow in comparison with the other casts.
His lack of airdash doesnāt help him much either.
But I can tell you hes an absolute beast in Devil Trigger mode.
But others besides Justin have said the same thing. It hasnāt been just him.
Maybe because in DMC3 his taunts also gave him meter? Its just a reference for the fans, nobody is really going to use a taunt in mid battle.
you can with spiral swords juggling reducing the cost of it that and itās stylish.
You can taunt during sword super for style and decrease meter cost AND itās apparently cancelable into hypers so yeahā¦people will do this mid game
Where are you guys seeing that his Taunt gives him half a meter? I donāt see it & I also taunted in training mode a ton, no meter gained at all though. Dang, that would be something thoughā¦ since you donāt build meter in Spiral Swords while they are out, making his Taunt the only way to do it would be both an homage to those crazy DMC3 vidsā¦ & pretty troll status (uncomparable to the amount of Megaman trolling that is in the game, however) :tup:
Did you try taunting after/during a combo ala DMC 3?
Nope, Iām not boss enough to do that :tup:
EDIT: 'Twas bothering me, booted it upā¦ Spiral Swordsā¦ Taunt while opponent was being comboād, still no meter gained 