I was actually going to ask for advice about this Ultra, I’m really frustrated by it. It seems stupidly good vs Vega, and I find myself losing entire matches to very mediocre Abels simply because of Breathless. It takes quite literally 50% of your health and can often seem inescapable even when thrown out completely randomly with no thought. On top of that, he can cancel it with no risk involved if it doesn’t look like he’ll hit with it.
St RH is too slow to break the armor, he can just grab you right out of it. Even in training mode when I knew that the Ultra was coming, I usually wasn’t fast enough to ST on reaction and if you don’t have charge that isn’t an option anyway. Because Vega’s jump doesn’t travel far at all, If you aren’t right near him you can’t jump fwd and if you aren’t far away you can’t jump back. Alot of times I feel like when Breathless is stocked I’m completely helpless and all my offensive options are shut down because I have to stay far out of range.
Yeah alot of my problem is that Abel’s perfect range to use Breathless against Vega is at Vega’s perfect range for footsies and zoning. So I’m generally walking around without a charge there, and when Breathless get’s thrown out even randomly it’s like shit, I have to completely guess when to jump and hope I avoid it.
That’s why I feel like all my options disappear once he has Ultra. I either have to turtle on a charge/stay full screen away, or get close enough to him to be able to jump fwd over his Ultra, which is exactly where I don’t want to hang out vs Abel.
recently i started playing a no fear type game. Pressure all day long. The thing is that if you play pokes he is going to roll and if you throw out a st.hk or st.hp you die. so thats why i said that. also st.lk - cr.mp is good for armor breaks.
hence why i said that is generally a bad idea because most Vega’s are going to play footsies.
Thats the funny thing about it though. If you use st HK it shuts down alot of stuff which is great, but if you miss, then you lose. St lk and cr lp on the other is good but is succeptible to the dash punch and the jump ins, and the rewards are usually not worth the risk since I can’t combo out of it while he is standing. Now cr mk on the other hand might be great, since Abel is usually going to be standing throughout the match, but I suck with cr mk right now so I haven’t really tried it. If he is crouching, then that makes things easy. I can just pressure all day.
So yea you are right in a sense. If you miss you lose, but it wins in quite a few situations.
I’d disagree though I’ve had the constant practice against Bison like, every week since Vanilla since my other half mains him. So for others it might be hard.
it’s Bison hand down especially a rush down bison and a cammy player who loves to block also charge character generally because they can see and counter your move but, on the flip side nobody know how to play against vega because all vega players are different one of the reason why i main him also he can control the stage what side he stans on
Bison? I know he is bad, but worst match up? To me he feels as bad as Sakura who is bad . Guile is worse than Chun easily. Well all of this is my uneducated guess.
I don’t know if Bison is the worst match since he is 100% free on wake up when he has no meter. But I definitely agree with Joz that Bison is better than Vega. It’s easier for him to apply pressure (2 frame links, not 1) and it’s easier for him to escape pressure (Ex HS, Ex scissors, EX PC) and he can ultra punish stupid stuff WITHOUT a charge and finally he never loses his mask and some stamina.
Yeah, Bison is a more solid character than Vega, I don’t doubt that.