She made a non-issue into $150g that is hustle. That is genius.
Average lookig female talking about games=guys giving her money with the hope Of buying her love
She knew what she was doing. It is a hustle.
Also she would never need 6g to make such a crappy vid
Should have just made a kickstarter about paying off student loans
Yes, proceed to enjoy the game and play the shit out of it
No?, GTFO and move on.
Folks make a big deal about the stupidest non issues. So what if its a dude, so what if its a girl, who gives a shit. So what if they aren’t enough females, who cares, enjoy the damn game if the damn game is good.
Yuuuuuup… That’s your typical mainstream sitcom structure. Idiot child-like husband and a wife who keeps everything from falling apart.
It’s men who write the scripts and it’s men who make money from productions like this, but that fact doesn’t matter, the target crowd is what matters, which is women who like seeing things like this. Just like how Sex and the City is written by men but aimed at aging women with turkey necks.
Gobble Gobble.
Don’t feel like opening a new thread
So is it sexist if games don’t sell because people aren’t interested as playing as a female protagonist? Some people (probably mostly feminists) don’t seem to get that the industry isn’t sexist, but the target audience just doesn’t want to play as a female character most of the time. The video Louiscipher posted hits the mark pretty well.
I wish that women like this Anita Sarkeesian would go away.
5 female (main) characters feminists love to ignore: (or don’t know about since they don’t know shit about video games)
Lightning- Final Fantasy XIII
Alyx Vance- Half Life
Faith Connors- Mirror’s Edge
Lara Croft- Tomb Raider (reboot)
Jade- Beyond Good and Evil
But no instead they bitch about games which came out over 20 years ago and have evolved since then.
Hell If I really wanted to I could make a YouTube video about how the ‘Silent Male Protagonist’ along with the ‘Psycotic Ripped Male ‘Badass’’ diminishes the male voice, is filled with blatant misandry and portrays an unrealistic picture of the male body.
But to make such a pointless, stupid video I need everyone to donate $40 to my kickstarter so I can buy the games even though I could watch the walkthroughs for free on YouTube.
I say we stop talking about anything not related to Beyond Good and Evil 2 here.
Some people here have half an idea of what the real deal is.
Some of those people have rightly remarked that the content providers of the industry are responding to the demand–or what they imagine to be a demand–for games that feature predominantly male heroes in scenarios primarily designed to appeal to young men. However, most of the people saying this are saying so as if they’re solving the problem, when all they’re really doing is describing one of its symptoms. Ironically, in doing so, they backhandedly acknowledge that there is a problem, which brings them at least that far into agreement with the girl in the video.
The video girl is highlighting elements of games that can be described as sexist or otherwise exclusionary to women. Again, observing symptoms rather than solving the problem.
So what is the problem?
In my view, video games have escaped the niche they once occupied. It is fair to argue that they are now one of the major mainstream forms of entertainment. There is no longer a good reason to expect that their appeal should be exclusive to a certain demographic, let alone exclusive along gender lines. This is one of a bajillion cases in which society has moved forward and the major media companies have lagged behind.
The problem is not so much that the content companies are giving the majority of consumers what they want at the exclusion of the minority, but that the people in charge of the companies are clinging to these ancient, ossified ideas about what consumers want and of who makes up the majority. The insistence that things haven’t changed or shouldn’t change is holding the entire medium back. For further reference, see the mainstream comics industry, the mainstream music industry, hell, even the mainstream movie industry. The attempts to cater almost exclusively to the tastes of an imaginary teen/20-something male who wants the same shooter or football game over and over again is hurting us all.
There is no question that the industry’s content providers cater disproportionately to the same demographic they’ve been catering to since the beginning. The question is whether or not that’s still for good reason, in an age when everybody and their parents are interested in video games.
I realize I haven’t posed a solution, but if I were to try, it would involve a shakeup of the major companies, infusions of new blood–certainly new blood of a variety of people from different walks of life–and perhaps even poaching young, up-and-coming creative talent from other entertainment media.
The bottom line is that companies don’t like to take risk. So they go with what makes them money all the other shit you are talking is just that. If people want to change the stories because they are pussy hurt then they need to do so with their wallets. That is the only thing corporate America is listening too. Not the sound of two lips flapping.
That might be happening right now. How much market share was it that EA lost before they canned their CEO? Companies that decline that much will eventually be forced to try something different, no matter how staid their strategies are. Look at the position that the major comic book companies were in during the late 70s/early 80s. Look at the record labels in the 1960s. Look at the video game industry itself in the 1980s.
Shit doesn’t have anything to do with feminist. Unless feminist all of a sudden play Madden.
Trying something new? Like appealing to a minority so they can lose more profit?
How about these vocal people put their money where their mouth is and shut the fuck up.
Blah blah blah, all women are objectified omg!!!
Lets look at the top selling games of the 2012.
Tell me which one of those games was objectifying women and which ones were just making money from the tried and true method of making sequels. Fuck outta here with this bullshit. If these people actually gave a fuck about women like those that are trafficked for REAL sex, not fucking video game bitches that make some dumb make up wearing slut feel insecure.
Nobody said it had anything to do with feminists. It has to do with companies being convinced they know what the people want and being wrong about it.
Also, “If these people actually gave a fuck about women like those that are trafficked for REAL sex, not fucking video game bitches that make some dumb make up wearing slut feel insecure” is an incomplete sentence. That’s a shame, because I was interested in where it was going.
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"They would be making stuff like this more common knowledge to the uninitiated. "
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Edit: Shut up
Correct me if I’m wrong, but young males still make up the majority of the video game market these days. While it is true there are more girls that play video games than ever, males still dominate the market. I don’t see how video game companies are “convinced they know what the people want and being wrong about it”. Unless you’re getting at that the male market doesn’t care if the leads of video games are male or female, but I don’t know if there’s enough or any evidence to support this.
From the Remember Me thread.
Now that is just fucking stupid.
Feminism is about gender equality and is the antithesis of sexism. Its philosophical name comes from a time when the idea that women should have equal rights was so progressive that it was considered to be ‘pro-female’, and thus feminist. But true feminism is not merely pro-female, it’s about people being treated equally in regard to sex and gender.
I say this because several people in this thread have made sweeping generalizations about ‘feminists’.
But please realize that just because people like Anita rally behind the banner of feminism, it doesn’t mean she truly represents the fundamental nature of the movement. Nor does it mean all people who identify themselves as feminists agree with her views. Just like any view people will attempt to warp it to fit their own agenda.
So if you want to bash on Anita for her perspectives, fine. Bash on her because she’s espouses skewed information as truth. But she does not represent feminism as a whole, just as an individual doesn’t represent an entire ethnicity or gender.
Because if you believe in gender equality, then philosophically speaking, you’re a feminist too.
Wrong, feminism isn’t about gender equality, otherwise I’d hear feminists on the news complaining about males getting sentenced to prison 40 percent longer for the same crime or I’d see women with signs protesting the horrible inequality of child custody and support. Yet for some reason I never see this, maybe it’s because feminism is fucking bullshit.
The issue at hand isn’t about feminism though.
Anita considers herself a feminist as a means to distract attention away from her and her argument. She castles behind the label so that when people criticize her they are also condemning feminism and thus begins the detail.
The issue isn’t in whatever dogmatic ideology she adheres to but in her as a critic. Its in her content,her strawmans, her misrepresentation, her bad arguments and deception. She is smart enough to know not to engage any critics because she knows her glass house would be easily shattered. In short, the feminist label is simply a diversion so that while people are arguing about feminism she slimes away quietly without anyone noticing.