Cvs2 team formation: discussion/suggestions, etc

For the record I play Geese and I myself don’t win much against blanka.

U said that because u never met the Mighty Scary K-Zangief in Singapore… :rofl:

May be your Geese not strong enough…

Nah, Geese definitley has a tough time against blanka. I went into training mode and threw out some random pokes with blanka and see what geese could do against them and uh, its not much. small jump helps geese but its still a really tough matchup

I still don’t agree, i saw many Geese players, in tournament vids too.
Not much of them really knew the advantages of Geese.

Blanka is my strongest char. No much problem to play against normal Geese players, but against skillful Geese, it is as ‘hard’ as a rock… :wasted:

My Geese is strong, statistically in the past when I recently picked up Geese I lost alot to Blanka, but now I haven’t fought much Blankas lately so I don’t know how I will do. I myself still need work since I’m not up in the ranks of buktooth, combo, bas, Makoto, OTK, etc.

hey newplayer, explain how geese beats blanka without landing a super. explain why geese is better than blanka period. then tell me how you plan on getting in close enough to blanka to do anything at all.

k blanka vs k geese? seems pretty even to me actually

and this thread is about team formation, stay on topic. if you want to pursue this topic start a new thread

ok so how about k-r2geese/r2blanka… we all win!

As my previous post, I am a Blanka player (in C-A-N-K) not Geese.
Geese low jump hk/hp beat Blanka ball/upper ball, getting close to k-Blanka isn’t a problem cos k-Blanka don’t have good anti air move like rc electric/ball to overcome these moves or crossup j/lj.mk.
Theoretically is hard to explain, action will prove everything.

I just simply list out my opinions:
Geese c.hp > any Blanka j.attack, c.hp/c.hk, ball…
Geese s.hp/hk > Blanka s.mp (far)?
Geese c.hk (1 frame?) > Blanka c.hk (?? frames)
Geese can counter Blanka ball by s.hk, run-c.hk or sj.hk…

I saw plenty of cvs2 vids up loaded on web. But, i rarely saw a skillful Geese like my friend done.
How to consider that is a skillful Geese?? I am not sure too… :sweat:
But, these combo are those i rarely see in a real match…
(1) s.lk, s.lk, c.hp xx Evil Shadow Masher/Deadly Rave
(2) c.lp, c.lp, c.mk xx Deadly Rave
Alternative:
K-Geese - low jump mk crossup combo into (1) or (2). (this combo i never others Geese player do… :rofl: )
for normal jump, yes. but, for low jump…never.

A-Geese - c.lp x1-2, Active CC xx c.mk, Evil Shadow Masher… blah blah… (common but not easy)
A-Geese - Active CC when crossing up xx j.mk x3 , c.mk, s.hp x N… (this combo i never others Geese player do too… :rofl: )

But, what i want to comment is either Blanka beat Geese or Geese beat Blanka.
It depend who control the characters.
For the priority character’s normal moves, i think Geese > Blanka.
try all these moves at the same time:
c.hp/mp/lp (far & near)
s.hp/mp/lp (far & near)
c.hk/mk/lk (far & near)
s.hk/mk/lk (far & near)

I never try, may be i am wrong… :sweat:
I am not expert in the frames moves, i just experienced it from real match.

Lowjump hk isnt the best to get in. Low jump mk and lk are a lot better because of the angle

Geese c.hp may beat blankas attacks but youd have to be pyschic to hit with it since its anti air / anti crossup attack with no horizontal range
S.hp is a good normal to stuff shit, S.hk is good too but you have to do it premeptively
Geese’s c.hk is no way 1 frame but it IS really buff and cancels into specials although fire balls are useless against blanka in blockstrings

Hi there, i have been training a little more with my C team Guile/Rugal/Sagat.
And i am wondering which one should go Ratio2 beetween Rugal and Sagat.
R2 rugal delayed Lk + Lv1 Genocide cutter is easy (cheap? :smiley: )and does good damage.
Sagat even in ratio 1 seems beasty.

Other point what about a team like guile/R2rugal/Sagat. Is there particular advantage putting ratio 2 at the end?
Any advice or opinons are welcome.

Sagat is 100x better than Rugal in every aspect. Only thing rugal has going for him is his ability to do 8k off a c.short. I dunno how much sagat does off a c.lk but the fact is, he is arguably the best character in the game (IMO, i know most people say A blanka is better but without RC c/k sagat destroys him)

Yeah do sagat. Rugal sucksssss

For general purposes, Rugal shouldn’t be R2 anchor because of Blanka, and to a less common extent, Bison. Those guys give Rugal a hard time if you place Rugal last.

For certain character-specific scenarios you’d run into at a tournament, Rugal can anchor (put up a fight) against teams with ???/Cammy-Sagat at the end of the team.

This is not a bad strategy if you put Sagat(R1) in the middle spot to cause trouble, and work the “oddball character matchup” at the end to win. But you also risk playing your best card (Sagat) early to do so.

That’s my experience.

Edit: I’d like to add that I can’t fit Rugal anywhere on my bidness team cause Rugal vs Vega in front is also really hard to deal with =(

Yep rugal has hard matchups, I think i would also switch him for a ryu against some characters, because i don’t feel comfortable with rugal against all characters (need more training yeah^^). But even if he’s quite defensless against some characters, i still like to play with him, that’s why I want to make him part of my team as often as possible^^

And yes there will be a tournament in paris this week end, with many french players. I expect a lot of blanka and sagat there^^ Will rugal get raped? :stuck_out_tongue:

Thx for your advices, i think rugal as anchor depends of the “ennemy” team :rofl:
Also thx for the link! I needed stuff like this!

No Problem. Oh check out BowserLK’s Rugal wiki

http://www.shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Rugal_(CvS2)

It has good insight on the Rugal vs Sagat match. For Rugal vs Cammy, many ideas from Geese vs Cammy section in the Geese wiki can be used with Rugual as well.

Hell yeah!

Rugal is bad =/ That’s why I dropped him… Not like I matter but…

No but he does have some nice tactics, but loses REALLY badly against high tiers. If he’s going against mid-lower tiers he does really nice damage.

Sagat is so much a better anchor character.

There was a nice Ratio2 placement discussion somewhere in this thread, but in short alot of people said you can do it, like if your using the middle r2 for a less stronger character, but your confident in your last, like putting Sagat as your last char and as r1.

I didnt really read through this thread, but use ratio 2 rolento.

all day every day

:sweat:
Thx for the advice…

Yeah sagat is my best characterso whatever ratio i give him, i always put him athe end, he’s my comeback character if i get raped by a blanka :stuck_out_tongue:
Anyway i will test some team formation this week end.

I’ve been working a lot on composing a good team for tournament play… but I’ve been having a lot of problems. So I figured I’d ask for some input from really good players. Please help me out?

I play C-groove, and so far my team is:
R1 Morrigan
R1 Cammy
R2 Chun-Li

I’m pretty good with Morrigan, but I know C isn’t her ideal groove. Same goes for Cammy, but to a lesser extent. Should I:

  1. Switch to K-groove, so as to maximize Cammy’s and Morrigan’s abilities, while shafting my R2 Chun-Li?
  2. Replace Morrigan with another character I’m good with (Mai, Ken, Athena)?

I’d appreciate any help; I’m really struggling. Thanks!