Lord knows how many Hibiki players might show up.
Maybe even Kyo as well. =)
I’ll still stick with Iori, Bison, Chun and Rolento even if it’s made into single match mode. Maybe even Akuma once in a while.
i don’t think it’s nescesary to repeat good points, so i’ll let you all decide which points are good or not. I am a hater of top tier. Yes I ocassionally stray to the top in my efforts to “diversify” my character knowledge base, but i always feel so dirty. I love the idea of 1v1. I agree that I would be able to focus on one character at a time. My Kyosuke would find a way to consistently launch against airborn foes. My raging storm would become integral to my strategy (yeah I switched characters). My Haomaru will find the best time to do that kick ass super. I know it’s not to be at my arcade though, who near the bay area is planning tournies, or will have machines set to 1v1?
My experience with 1v1 is that the match ups that seemed so easy before aren’t really. My friend’s hibiki, which usually is owned by my geese, made matches really dificult. His kim kept on psyching out my dhalsim. I thin kwith the 1v1, terry would become more than just: let’s try to land the super and burn knuckle. And ken would make everyone pee their pants.
In conclusion: SHAZAAM
i like the way this man thinks. just talked to the management at stockton golfland (sorta near the bay area) and he’s cool with me hosting some weekly tournaments. he’s going to figure out how to make it 1vs1. we just have to come up with a day for it. when can you guys make it out?
I’m running Single Match Play for the tourney here at the end of November. I’ll let you guys know how it goes.
I like this idea, a lot.
My 2 favorite things about CVS2 were the number of characters and the Groove System. Playing in Single Match lets me learn all the more about the characters I like, makes the game shorter, and maybe makes the matches more interesting. Less essoteric characters may be played, but I think it’ll be like ST, where when the non top tier IS played, they’re played WELL because people have actually learned how to play them.
I’m not sure how significant this point is, but characters with really good RCs are going to be that much better. “Well duh.” I haven’t played too much CVS2 (or any SF for that matter) since Evo, so I haven’t paid attention to how much RCing has taken over, but I’d think that in a single match world, RCing is going to be that much more dominant. It comes back to not truly knowing character matchups.
Re: single elimination weeklys, I supported that idea way back when there was a poll floating around about it. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work well when people are really spread out. If there isn’t really a central place to gather regularly, then it becomes a real chore. Travelling 4+ hours one way every weekend is a bit more than I’m willing to muster. But, if I lived relatively near an active arcade though, that would get my vote.
Masaka
What do people think of playing at a faster speed, say speed 4 or speed 5?
That helps you learn more about characters too.
As usual, I’m agreeing with everything that James says, but these points I just had to comment on…
NOT die to Sagat pathetically? You MUST be crazy, because I think the same way, and I know I’m crazy! :lol:
Seriously… I like Sagat matches with Gief. It turns into a “fierce vs. fierce” match, and those are seriously the only matches Gief can win in this game…
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Yes. People don’t understand that APEX came about because there was a great interest in the games that are included in the system. This is no “which came first, the chicken or the egg?” debate. Interest in the games came first, and that brought about APEX. 3S, A3, and CvS2 Single Match Mode do not need to be part of APEX. If they ever do it is because of such a great interest in the game/format that it demands APEX rankings. Right now, that is not the case.
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James is definately right about the whole Makis, Mais, and Eagles thing. My team is Mai/Chun/R2Cammy, and Mai was one of those “get the job done characters” like he said. I think a single match tournament is something they should try and see if it works out. I mean, what do they have to lose? But of course, like James and Gunther said earlier, it probably wont happen.
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Yeah. My Kim kicks your ass and orders a side of fries.
SHAZAAM.
I always though a good idea was to have a 2 vs 2 system with instant tagging. You’d have your basic 3 level system, and tagging would take 1 or 2 levels (depening on how perful it is during the testing of the game) and instantly (like a super animation) the game freezes, and you switch with your partner, in the same place that tehy were (eg: if they were center screen, you could just switch with your partner, and the partner would be middle screen, with a second of pausing to re-adjust)
They would also share the same health bar (which would be decribed as a point system instead, so people wouldn’t nit pick) and if someone was jumping at your character, you could tag in ryu (your other character) and dragon uppercut them. You get initiative, tho small, and it costs meter.
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SVGL is attempting to run a team tournament for CvS2 with 2 man teams - each person controls one character on the team, so you must have the same groove as your partner.
I suggested having 2 man teams of 2 r4s. That way, you can have teams of different grooves… or teams of the same groove and same character… all matchups would be same ratio vs. same ratio (no “r3 Blanka vs. r1 ANYBODY” impossible matchups) PLUS no “building up/saving meter for your partner” BS - if you’re about to die and you have meter, you can USE it since there’s no “next round”. Also, there’s no need to change the settings to tournament format - since we’re paying to play anyway, you can just leave it in normal format (although lowering the price would be good… yes SVGL is one of the few places left that still has it at 2 tokens :lame: )
Unfortunately, Choi seems intent on doing this new format of his.
Has my suggested format been attempted anywhere yet? What do you guys think of it? I think it’d be similar to the single-match mode a lot of us are in favor of, except only one round per player (per game that is)…
That actually sounds pretty cool, but wouldn’t it be easier to have two r2s vs two r2s like y’all did in CvS1 pair match mode? I think that would be interesting as well.
If y’all hold a tourney over thanksgiving break like that, I’ll go…though I don’t know who my partner would be (sloppy, perhaps).
Choi wants variety I guess… but both your format and his requires you to have the same groove as AND different character from your partner. Having r4 teams allows a mix. Like, say I use A-Ryu with a partner who uses N-Ryu. We go up against a team that’s K-Blanka and N-Sagat. Both teams can have multiple grooves. My team has the same character, and all matchups would be equal ratio matchups. PLUS you don’t have to worry about saving meter for your partner, OR turtling to make sure your opponent doesn’t gain any life back. Games are one round. I suppose you could make it 2 out of 3 if you want, but I’m a big proponent of making matches SHORT. 2 man r4 team format would basically be the same as a single match mode one-game format.
Grrgrrgh… Sorry, Gunter, changing topics a tad bit here…
Isn’t there a code you can do in the arcade to switch it to SIngle Match Mode? When the game starts up, it reads “Ratio Mode” in the top right corner. I thought, like for CvS1’s 2v2 Pair Match Mode, there was a way to do Single Match Mode for CvS2. If there is, I certainly can’t remember what it is, and it’s nowhere on the internet that I canfind. If anyone remembers how to do it, please let me know.
- James
Have u tried using the YAMAOOUT password in the games config?
I agree CVS 2s ratio play is the way its played, and is good, but a change in pace would also be good. Single mode would make it feel like the good old days, with the classic games.
i greeted the format with open arms… but it’s really not fun at all to me. have you guys tried it yet? it’s really only for the 25 and over crowd i think. seriously. but who am i to judge? i hate training mode.-L.
it’s still gonna be bogus, because roll cancelling still exists, and that is why cvs2 is lame not really ratio match, although they both bring down the quality of the game in their own way.