CvS2: P-Groove Thread

Yes!

What if someone starts to spam fireballs on you? I got owned up by the old tactic of fireball/dragon punch. :frowning: I would have to time the fireball and jump in correctly. I guess I get too reckless and frustrated.

The ol’ fireball trap is actually pretty good vs P-groove, what I likt to do is slowly walk forwars and at least try to parry the fireballs,once youve cornered them it’s pretty easy from there. Depending on how confident you are at parry you can just jump in, and expect an antiair, what sucks is when they do like ryu-c.FPxxshoryuken, that shit always gets me

I say keep it simple. Just do the oldskool tactic that’s been used since WW for the fireball trap. Walk forward, jump straight up when the fireball gets close. Wash, rinse, repeat. Or if you’re daring and stupid like me, jump into the uppercut and parry this shit out of it. :lol:

What exactly is it about Joe that makes him good in P-Groove?

jinrai: once we say someone is good in P-groove, it means it can help your footsies ALOT

Cammy: her pokes are outstanding, with parry she can be even better…
Kyo: parry into c.mp… thats what im saying yea…
Vega: good footies already. and now a bit more reliable anti-air
Sakura: same like Kyo… parry, c.lk… loads of damage =)
Hibiki: good defence, but with parry… DAYUM

This is why some people play Blanka… a charge char wouldnt help his parry… but it actually does… u can charge, parry, back, forward+p and super comes out… i always do that with my Vega when they jump at me :smiley: but Blanka got great footsies already, c.hk, c.hp, d+f.hp… s.mp… That’s why alot of people play him; To improve his footsies…

I guess Joe is that way too… or Kyo’s way… I don’t even know Joe’s BnB… but hey… u can always dp+hk them after a parry :wink: Or knockdown with c.hk…

There’s nothing insanely good about p joe yet. Joe seems very under rated as far as ground game is concerned tho. He has good priority with his s.mk, s.hk, s.hp, and c.hk (slide). When he gets in he can do some good chip damage and mixups with the quickhands cancel. This will basically push him out to his nice poking range. From here you can use the jab fireballs and slide to annoy fools. I think as of now he’s good as a battery and mainly for zoning. But i think if somebody were dedicated enough to get the parry > c/s.mp > quickhands off of close parries we’d see some insane shit. Maybe…

hmmm, Joe. YEah well hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

not too sure about Joe, but, GOOD LUCK! :slight_smile:

LTB

Ah, I see. I just kept hearing that P-Joe was the shit and wondered why.

BTW, my team is Kyo/Cammy/2-Sagat. Just picked up Kyo last week and I’m loving it. I’ve been told that Cammy should be the Ratio 2, but R2 Sagat is working better for me.

I say Cammy should be R2 and I will actually give reasons :wink:

Cammy is far better then Sagat in P-groove, because she has insanely fast pokes so 9/10 times you will hit someone with a hk after a parry and hk is supercancellable :wink:

Ppl who play Sagat in C-groove always roll to get forward when they knocked someone down… Sagat doesn’t have run or roll in P-groove… and his pokes aren’t THAT fast… I say you have better chance with Cammy to super someone then Sagat… He is OK though in P… But really: Put him ratio 1

Yea I agree…Cammy’s pokes make her a great force to be rekoned with when she’s in p groove.

She can move forward, back all day and when the oponent comes close…the good ol’ fk will keep em off.

P groove Blanka. Why don’t people say he’s good? People say that he doesn’t benefit off of a parry well…however low parry into c.rh can be all that one needs to do to get some good damage in…

Its much better to super off of st far fierce than hk. You only have a few frames to cancel into super. Off of fierce you can link it on reaction.

ahh great to know… i know from close hp u can wack off on screen, cannot see anything and still hit with the super if u wanna… but ah well… hk always works for me… coz i dont hope-parry press forward and hoping he does a mid or high attack… thats btw what the biggest difficulty is for the new P-groovers… u have to read ur opponent… see when they attack low and implent that into ur mind to hit low and not downback :wink:

P-Cammy

I still think that P-Cammy is the biggest force to be reckoned with in P-Groove. I’m pretty sure that she’s the only one in the groove that can change from a complete rushdown to straight up turtle lockdown with the least amount of effort. P-Cammy can actually be given any status in the battery/user/anchor setup which makes her a good all around pick. Plus high/low parries can equal death when she has super.

I knew that her close fierce linked into Spin Drive, but I didn’t know about her far fierce. That alone helps a lot, thanks.

I heard that the best P team is Kyo Sagat CAmmy R2.

my votes for C/B/S

Sakura/xxx/Cammy

Thats the best team to me. I really don’t know who would fit in that second part. Whoever is a good user.

Yeah it’s just that, sagat does better over all against more characters. Partly because of his ability to easily parry into super, and the fact that he has a DP. Also Kyo is a legit top tier in P groove, cause you can parry once into huge damage. The matchups that Sagat has problems with usually blanka can handle. So I guess the best P teams are Blanka Kyo Cammy, OR Kyo Sagat Cammy. I have been putting Blanka up front cause he doesen’t need a meter, and if he has one it’s kinda tough to land it. Cammy is just too good, she has all the tools. So for me it’s all about Kyo, Cammy, Blanka, Sagat. There is one more character that I will include, well actually 2. Rolento and Vega I would say have their uses in P as well. I would advise against using Rolento against K groove tho since one of his patriot circles practically fills K’s meter. So as far as managing meter and such, rolento can have problems here. Vega is a little weird. BAS was telling me that Vega beats Honda, Sakura, and Bison. He was suggesting that I pick vega up, to deal with these characters.

I feel I have a good grasp on C/B/S , still need to work on my K/V/R tho. I think a solid P player with a good grasp on all these characters can be a force not to be taken lightly. The problem with CBS is this. There is nothing bad about Cammy, she is perfect. Blanka and Sagat however have some serious problems. There are alot of matchups that Blanka and Sagat just dominate straight up. They run into some problems however, like Chun-li for example. I think blanka and Sagat have problems with an experienced and talented Chun-Li. Also, Cammy, and Probably Sakura too. I even find it hard to take out good shotos with blanka. People understand the game too well now to let you just whore out C. FP all day like 2 years ago. These pokes have lost some of there usefullness. I’m not sure who has worse matchups in P, Sagat OR Kyo. It’s tough to say.

LTB

ya you are so rite.CBS is good but vs like a guile or ken team,your also gonna hve a huge problem,Sagat just gets killed so bad by guile,there is almost nothing you can do.
I really wan’t to drop sagat from my team but I don’t know who to pick up,Im pretty sure IM gonna get vega,I don;t know yet.

So were lookin at vega sagat blanka,cammy,kyo,rolento,–for tops

Is there anyone outside this that is near top or high second??