The “police brutality” thing wasn’t brought up because the officer retaliate, but that he retaliate with a punch. I think it’s safe to say that everyone believe in that situation the officer has the right to retaliate, but how he retaliate is the issue we are discussing.
To me your post basically said “look the officer was cornered, and had to do something.” Which I think everyone in here already agrees with.
When cops ask you to do something, and you give them a rash of shit, they can arrest you on some bullshit charge. It won’t stick or anything, but you will spend 24 hours in jail. I have definitely gotten bullshit traffic violations, and I never said a damn thing to the cop, but when I went to the judge and disputed the ticket I got every one of them dropped. Pissing a cop off isn’t going to get you anything but arrested.
I love how everyone had their cell phones out recording that shit. It was almost a ‘SET PHASERS TO STUN’ moment. They looked like west coast star trek extras.
On topic: I really wish he had shouted “FAAAALCOON” before that punch. He also should’ve done the wind up. And been dressed like Captain Falcon.
Don’t be a dumb fuck. Have you ever actually been on a road where jay walking is a problem? That shit causes mass accidents. Just because you can’t grasp the concept doesn’t mean the shit isn’t a problem. Stop being stupid.
What the fuck is there to debate? You’re intervening in someone being arrested, which is against the law.
She should be lucky all she got was a punch to the face. If these were males, nobody would even care, but since it’s females, peoples panties are in a bunch.
The cop was in no way wrong. He could have tasered the woman and there would have been less whining, but a punch and everyone gets pissy. I don’t know if you guys have been tasered before…but it doesn’t feel good (a cop came out and tasered volunteers during a law class I had in high school). Dude has the right to defend himself if he is getting physically battered by two people.
Okay, IMO, the cop gets something like a C for the way he handled the situation. Socking the girl? I agree–unprofessional. But he ended the altercation, which means he did his job, and without hurting anybody either. (Everybody seems to agree the girl who was punched didn’t suffer any significant physical injuries.)
But bringing “self-defense” into it the way the cop’s superiors are doing after the fact is just ridiculous. He was under no physical danger, but the PR people don’t give a shit because they know they’re BASICALLY in the right and can get away with saying anything at this point since no one’s going to call them on it.
This incident is about whether police officers can use physical force to create compliance, even when they do a shoddy, unprofessional job of it; not whether police officers have the right to defend themselves. (My answer to the first is “Yes, within reason,” and to the second, “Yes, of course.”) The rhetoric being used by the police department just looks like the usual public-relations three card monty.
He likely was in no physical danger, but a cop cant take a risk of a suspect taking his gun, or having a concealed weapon. When a situation escalates, a cop has to bring that situation back down to earth
this wasnt an incident use to create compliance. As stated above, it was self defence, pure and simple.