your going to need to run linux stuff on the xbox for usb controllers to work, otherwise I highly doubt it’ll work
360 is impossible due to security chip.
thanks bad mojo. be great if you could’ve tested games like DR and VF5. wonder when the markman review will be up.
Btw it probably means the simulatenous presses on benami games on 360 not pc. also does the dpad light up the dpad buttons on PC properties on does it still recognize it as analog?
Dpad works as a pov hat switch. Left analog as an analog axes and right analog as z rotation.
Some converters don’t work for dancemats since left/right, up/down are on the same axis so pressing opposite directions simultaneously just registers as neutral.
The workaround the Joy Box 3 Pro and others use is when you switch it to DDR mode directional inputs are mapped to buttons as well.
I could test the sumoto on pc with mame games but pc usb polling rate might be different than the ps3’s. I have the PC set to 500mhz, which helps eliminate any potential converter lag. I don’t know the exact value but it’s probably not 500mhz on console.
nice thread. i think im going to pick up a 360, but after reading this thread i have some concerns regarding converters.
i have an hrap 2 sa, but it looks like there aren’t any good ps2 > 360 converters, so it sounds like i’ll have to pick up a 360 stick. it also doesn’t look like there are any good options for 360 > ps3 converters, so once evo comes around, i’m out of luck?
ytwojay: you said you have an hrap2. Just remember to bring that with you as well. They’ll be converters for PS2 -> PS3 supposly
thanks badmojo. windows in general really doesn’t allow multiple directional input that are across from each other(up + down, left + right). I don’t own one of those converters that have dance mode, but I’ve always thought that doing that just change the directions to actual button presses.
Looks like there may be a problem with the Sumoto, TAC, and some other convertors and the new PS3 update, I haven’t confirmed anything, but there are a couple threads on it going around.
Yeah. Thanks for the post. I saw a few threads on this earlier this morning. I’m waiting for more info before I update the OP.
Apparently InPin, Pelican, Real, HAIS are still working.
Sumoto and TAK are affected.
You could try the Max Shooter. Another user said that it worked fine with his HRAP. Disclaimer: This is expensive, etc etc and I don’t guarantee that it will work.
I did the update with my SFAC stick and my generic adapter connected to the PS3 w/o any issues whatsoever. After the update, I continued to kick booty on SFHD. No freezing. No system reset. Was all good.
Yeah, give it a few days to pan out and I’ll update with what doesn’t work. It seems like there are more of them that work fine than not. I’m sad to see the Sumoto got zapped.
Yeah, I heard back from my source, it’s confirmed (to me, anyways), the 2.7 kills Sumotos. He updated then tested it with his T5 stick. The system freezes if you try to plug it in after startup, and just boots to a black screen if you start with it plugged in. SOAB. :tdown:
That really sucks, as the Sumoto was a hell of a converter for the price. Looks like I won’t be updating until I score a couple Inpins from laugh.
My PCB: PS1 Digital pad H series
Put virtua fighter on and did the following tests:
TESTED ON PS3 FIRMWARE VERSION 2.7
Lag test
Spun the stick around very quickly for 30s. All directions hit correctly and the frames never touched 4.
Did Wolf’s hcf+PG throw, all directions 1 frame.
Did Wolf’s 360 throw, all directions 1 frame.
Dropped input test
Held the left, right, up, and down directions for 1 minute each and it never stopped going.
Popped in SF4.
Multi button test
Did Ryu’s ultra 10 times in a row without a single miss. Not to sure on how to test this in any other way.
The HAIS has all the features of the REAL plus a memory card reader! Canto recommends this converter!!! :nunchuck:
I will test it out on my SFAC 15th pad in the next week or so, I don’t have a stick for it right now lol.
UPDATE 5-19-09
I used the converter lag tester in the first post of this thread.
Keyboard lag = 0.83
Converter lag = 0.93
LAGLESS CONVERTER!!
Also… you know whats strange? It has the same exact name as the REAL when I plug it into the PC… PC TWIN SHOCK? It also has all the same features as the REAL…??? Did they steal the code or something? lol
Cool thing I chose this over the Sumoto!! hahaha. The real reason why I chose this over the sumoto is that holding select and pressing up initiates the home menu. :woot:
glad to hear you picked the right one. i was deciding whether to get sumoto or hais, and it looks like i made the wrong choice… i just bought it too!
fyi: holding the “menu” button or pressing the analog button on an old playstation controller actually took you to the home menu (xmb) with the sumoto. it was a great adapter until firmware 2.7!
Hey dude, a cool feature you could add to the main post is put users’ reviews. Like this:
Hais (2.7 Compatible): These reportedly work well and include a PS2 memory card reader. Press Analog or Up+Select for XMB. Hold Up+Select for Home.
Compatible with: PS2 DS, PS1 Digital, SFAC, Saturn PS2 pad, Namco PS1, Tekken 5
Incompatible with: REVIEWS:Canto
Yeah, I can definitely do that. I have that info littered throughout as it is. I’ll go add yours now since you asked. When I have some more time I’ll go digging for others.
I’ll go ahead and contribute a little tidbit of info to this thread.
Converter: inPin
Controller: PlayStation 1 Digital Pad “M” Version PCB
Tested On: PC, assumed to be the same on a PS3
Issue: Directional inputs
Specifics:
I believe this PCB is one of those “certain non-compliant” ones that Kyle listed in the first post with regards to PS1 Digital Pad compatibility. This version PCB makes, on my PC at least, my inPin go bonkers. It keeps trying to find analog sticks which it never finds and thus thinks that both analog sticks are being pressed in the down-right position. Because it keeps searching, down-right keeps on “flickering” and pressing even when I’m not doing anything.
I’ll give more conclusive results once I can head over to my friend’s house to test it on his PS3, but for now, this is the best I’ve got. Hopefully this helped a little!
From a quick machine translation and the pictures it appears to be a programmable PS2-3 adapter with a dedicated PS button. The price is listed at around $60 bucks 5,980 Yen,but when I added it to the cart it said out of stock :rolleyes: