Competitive or not

I don’t see why depth is considered intrinsically linked with “competitiveness”. Hell, the hurdles is pretty fucking shallow but people compete in that all over the world.

It’s ironic really, our preoccupation with depth, considering how polar matches at top level can become. Resolved, often, by 50/50 decisions.

Yeah, I agree. The folks did at AiB did a great job with their ladder system. I especially like the feedback you get. It is a good feeling to know I impressed people with my Ganon even though I did lose.

That’s a physical sport based on a combination of speed, balance and agility (jumping height) I don’t see how that compares to a party/fighting video game.

The thing is Hurdlers accept that they are running in a straight line and jumping over static obstacles, rather than saying that theres a deep meta-game to hurdles. Perhaps dashing back and forth before that final hurdle will throw off the opponent? They are doing what they’re doing because the physicality is what makes competitive hurdles.

I don’t think dudes with game cube controllers can be compared to an Olympic sport. And people said my posts in this were retarded :wgrin:

Rock paper scissors has more depth than brawl.

Again…

L O L

Man, you are just on fire, I mean you quoted me once, then did again the next day!

Too good. Your logic is overwhelming, as is the logic of all you knowledgeable smash kids.

Have fun playing Rock Scissors.

DropOff, I’m sorry your friends suck at smash. Instead of whining about how it has no depth because your friends can’t beat you, why don’t you try to find some better opponents?

that is, better IRL. online isn’t my cup of tea.

I can beat my friends at lots of games, it doesn’t make them have no depth.

Honestly when Brawl first came out I wasn’t exactly good or anything, and went even with my friends who I referred to as scrubs (also I’d like to verify that I meant they are scrubs at SF and stuff, not smash, thank you out of context quoting)

I’m just surprised at how easy it was to go from a couple wins here and there to beasting people who do own this game, and have improved and learned since it came out.

Anyone who lives in British Columbia, Canada wanna inform me of some tourneys/meet up for some games?

I don’t see how taking the game more seriously = better player either. If you approach it like a complicated game then, fuck I guess it’ll seem that way while you’re spazzing out, running through your leet strats in your head while playing.

Smash is simple, I never said it was bad, because it is fun. But fun doesn’t mean competitive. By approaching it at a smaller scale you can peel back the (few) layers the game has and get down to business.

Well to me I consider Smash Bros a unique fighting game. However, I’ve talked to many core veterans of other the fighting games and they don’t consider Smash to be a fighting game. Hell I even heard from one guy who worked on projects for Namco, Capcom and other companies and he doesn’t consider DOA a fighting game.

Nah, to be fair my first Tournament I got 5th place and got to meet some good SWF people, was damn fun. But I never thought I was the messiah of smash.

As for Dropoff, I never once said the game as infinite depth or anything. However the game focuses on mindgames and reactions which in itself IS deep. Having to out think your opponent using a varied set of characters and skills is fun. It doesn’t take the same sort of memorization to learn how to play a character like Guilty Gear, but that doesn’t mean the game isn’t competitive.

But since you seem to be having fun with your Rock / Scissor quip, mind telling me what tactic beats out every other one? I would love to use it and go win every major tournament out there.

And their opinions matter why? Of course they’ll say that. They’re veterans of OTHER FIGHTING GAMES.

You guys worry about other people too much. Play what you enjoy, don’t play what you don’t. Live and let live.

More like Live and Learn.

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From the works of yesterday?

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Sounds like an excuse not to address my valid point.

So … what, the execution? It’s one dimensional. Try to run and jump over the hurdles as fast as you can. It’s deep and “competitive” because it requires muscle training? Fuck you.

viva la status quo right pal

Get the fuck out of here you derelict.

well by depth I meant that it can’t be the same repetitive shit over and over. even matchups that have to be played exactly in a certain manner differ

rock paper scissors is actually extremely deep. anyway, he’s quoting you cause you’re saying some pretty bullheaded shit. SSBB may not be MvC2 but that doesn’t mean it has no depth

I know what you mean. I was just highlighting the difference between something being competitive and how appropriate it is to play competitively.

Uh yeah, I don’t think your point was valid, but I did address it.

Marty said:
I know what you mean. I was just highlighting the difference between something being competitive and how appropriate it is to play competitively.

Still, I can’t fathom why you’d think Hurdles or any sport even applies to Smash. Of course a physical test of speed is more competitive than pretty much any video game.

Whens the last time you’ve been in a foot race? There’s no questioning the competitiveness of running against someone, perhaps you can see their back, or maybe you got a huge lead and are on top of the world.

None of that happens in smash. If I’m winning, it doesn’t feel rewarding (unless I get a spike, Edge play is the only real excitement this game offers) if I’m losing, I don’t give up, but I never feel bad.

omfg said:
rock paper scissors is actually extremely deep.

Thanks dipshit, that’s not what I was implying at all.

Ceirnian
But since you seem to be having fun with your Rock / Scissor quip, mind telling me what tactic beats out every other one?
Air Dodge, Roll, spot dodge, shield, power shield > All attacks

That may not be accurate or the most perfect form of theory fighter but it’s good enough.

Also

“Get the fuck out of here you derelict.”

Oh man, I can’t believe you said that :chat:
Next time you pick an insult, perhaps you should stick with one that applies to the current situation. Your argumentative skills are so poor that you pull shit like this, and your hurdles analogy, out of your fucking ass.

If I was a homeless rube I 100% doubt I’d have the resources to play brawl and chat with you fine fellows online.