DOA5 vanilla fluff is pretty much nothing. the starting stages were panned by old time fans for being mostly boring, those big blockbuster transitions were used only twice, tag is a broken mess, the story is just stupid as all hell, and Survivor and arcade are based on pure luck since the AI can just read your inputs and instantly hold.
literally all i do in that game is training mode and online because everything else isn’t worth it.
the only thing this game needs is a more robust training mode with challenges to get you used to the character.
You get more content with previous Street Fighter series;
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter EX3
X-Men vs Street Fighter
etc
This generation of Street Fighter is lacking. To be honest I would rate it as follows;
Mortal Kombat X
Guilty Gear XRD
Injustice God Among Us
Killer Instinct
Street Fighter V
Even the most basic game Killer Instinct LOL, has arcade mode. My gosh :bawling:
There will definitely be a sizeable portion of people moving over as the game gets more content.
There really aren’t going to be that many more people moving over to KI even with PC launch. It still requires Windows 10 which not everyone will get and has a lot of restrictions for modding or general PC use.
Injustice 2 will get its casuals to spend lots of money on it, but I can’t see it having a large active player base like SFV will have a year or 2 from now. You’ll just get your single player casuals to mess with it for a while since that’s what NRS usually focuses on. By the time SFV really gets rolling around it’ll have cross play on the two strongest platforms and who knows if NRS won’t botch a PC port the next time by the time Injustice 2 hits.
A smaller one than will leave as other, newer games with more content come out.
Windows 10 has almost 10 times the PS4’s install base and 15 times the XB1’s. It’s also a free upgrade to get a free game. People don’t come back and suddenly buy 60 dollar titles a half year later because it’s one step closer to having content it should have had at launch. Even with the single player campaign this game wouldn’t of had the content of most other fighters and by then it’ll be six months old. It’s clear as day that you don’t know how the videogame market works if you think releasing a single player download that late into a games life expectancy is going to do anything for sales.
SFV’s base will be smaller than it is now in two years, and it’s small now. Unless they go free I’d be surprised if the game is even still being supported since by then Capcom will probably be in bankruptcy.
MKX had like 10 times as many features for the hardcore non casual audience than SFV does. SFV doesn’t have the goddamn lobbies done, never thought about rage quitters, and the training mode lacks basic information. Stop deluding yourself, SFV is just as bad for pros as it is casuals. It’s ranking system is a nightmare of dysfunctionality.
So SFV has 3 to 4,000 people showing up for it at Evo, is potentially better balanced and has a much better balancing regimen (only patch once a year as opposed to when you get done from lunch at work on any given day), a pretty functional netcode in solid connections where you can anti air and confirm better than MKX started or SFIV ever, but it’s not good for pros? Yeah ok. You can still beat the shit out of a rage quitter and that still puts a mental dent in them. You have actual top players in the top 5 for SFV where that wasn’t viably the case for a lot of other past fighters.
SFV’s base will definitely pick up in a couple years. There’s no way for it to go down. More content will equal more interest especially when the price of the game goes down. Word will get around. It probably won’t have a larger active base than Injustice 2 for a short period of time, but without any way to actively keep people involved and purchasing things day to day I don’t see it having a long lasting player base. MKX on PC is already down to 1,000 active players per day with a botched PC port despite being the king of selling a fighting game.
Windows 10 is Windows 10, but Steam is Steam and more friendly for PC users.
When your wins are meaningless because the other guy just leaves, it takes 20 minutes to get into a game at all, and you can’t set up online tournaments because of lobbies? Nope. Not good at all.
Yeah, people who just quit before losing every match.
Not unless they make the game free it won’t. That’s just not how the arc of these games go. Every single fighting game and 99% of games in general see the most players they’ll ever have in the first year. That was true of every previous SF game. The only games that have LARGER audiences after a few years are free to play games.
The fact that you can say this with a straight face strongly indicates that you have truly no experience with how that industry works. That’s been wrong for virtually every game that has ever existed.
Yeah, I’d be interested to see how it’s doing on PS4. That’d be an actual comparison.
Do… Do you seriously not know that steam is on Windows 10? What cave are you living in that you can write these things in your posts?
What I’m saying is that there are a lot of people who don’t like Windows 10 still and probably won’t buy Windows 10 to play KI. You can have Windows 7 or 8 and still play SFV. That is a big deal.
I’m sure there’s no game that’s ever gotten a larger player base over time. Yup, you’re right even though you’re very wrong.
I’ve never waited 20 minutes for a match of SFV since the game launched. 2 to 3 minutes is usual wait time and sometimes get one in like 30 seconds or less. You’re definitely overstating the issue with rage quitting since you can still at least play when they rage quit. They said they will have a permanent solution, but there are a sizeable amount of people playing the game that know that beating someone down is good enough regardless of points until the perma fix comes.
If you’re referring to the quantity of characters, then you’re being ridiculous. KI launched with 6 characters. Xrd launched with(I think) 14. SFV has 16. I guess MKX beats it, but it seems to be an exception to the rule.
Windows 10 is free and if it were a big deal for SFV the game wouldn’t be doing terribly on steam.
I didn’t say none, I said very few with the exception of free games. The numbers are transparent to anyone that wants to look. The arc of a player base is a descending cliff on virtually all titles including multiplayer focused ones. Feel free to try and point out a game that had more players 2 years later than it had a month after its release that wasn’t also a free game. About the only one I can think of is CS:GO and Valve lost a ton of money propping that game up but it’s a halo game for Steam so they’re willing to lose forever in a way Capcom can’t.
I said that’s what it was like at launch. When the majority of people who were going to play it were actually trying to play it.
It just makes the competitive rankings pointless.
There aren’t a sizeable number of people playing this game at all.
CS GO was also not free and started off slower than it is now. Not that it probably wasn’t ever not popping, but the numbers were smaller compared to what it is now and there was an initial investment. SFV will eventually go down in price and is already rather cheap on PC.
Windows 10 is free but there are people who don’t like Windows 10. Which cuts a sizeable amount of people off. There are people who wouldn’t take an Xbone or WiiU even if it was free. Some people just don’t like the new thing. It will be a big deal down the road as SFV inevitably keeps more people playing over time since it’s just a bigger brand with a bigger name that doesn’t force the new OS on people.
5,000 just for PC isn’t sizeable. It’s just nothing. Yup.
Considering it’s superior to 7 in every way those people are just being dumb.
Ahh, yes, these people who don’t buy new things but who will buy SFV which is only on next gen consoles or relatively powerful PCs. Yep. Uhuh.
League of legends was getting 11.5 million unique active monthly players in 2015. That is two thousand three hundred times the daily popularity of SFV on steam. 5,000 isn’t sizeable. It’s disastrously low.
37.99 is cheaper than 60. You can get it for that on PC.
I can talk to a lot of people who work at the computer super store I go to who don’t want to fuck with Windows 10. There is no way you can assemble a large line of tech savvy people who will tell you Windows 10 is better than 7 in EVERY way. That is crazy. Plus the majority of computer based businesses most likely will still stick to 7 for a while.
Yeah sure League is the extreme here, but when MKX and Euro Truck Simulator are the norm, 5,000 is officially sizeable IMO. At least considerable. Not a dead game. Whereas League of Legends would be more an extreme outlier that trumps the majority of other games.
Granted you have to go to one specific website to get it at that price. Pretty sure Steam itself is still selling it for 60.
Still 59.99, 89.99 for game and Season pass. No one said it was doing amazing but Steam themselves think it’s doing well enough to not drop the price yet apparently.
I figured as much, but since you said Windows 10 is better in every way over Windows 7 and everyone will have no problem playing KI in Windows 10 then it seems we work together in making stuff up.
When faced with either playing a game they want to try or not people will hit that upgrade button. It’s a 15 minute process that gives you a better operating system with better security. The only holdouts are the same idiots who thought the XB1 was going to spy on their weed supply.
