In addition to the above, having a set-up move doesn’t even mean you’re an “offensive mon” necessarily. Otherwise that janky Cosmic Power-Stored Power Clefable set is an “offensive mon” even though it’s more just a tank with pseudo-inevitability. The sames goes for Calm Mind Suicune, Curse Snorlax, Calm Mind Slowbro-Mega, etc.
Meh, most Pokemon are flexible enough that they can play somewhat more defensive or offensive depending on stat allocation, team synergy, moves, etc… It’s why one gen will see Garchomp as the most deadliest, fastest threat that must be banned, and the next, it’s a regular ass bulky pivot that sets rocks.
Of course, there are also those that are only designed with one or two things in mind, and only those things, but they are still the outliers.
This is also true, which is why it’s better to generally talk about offensive (or defensive) sets given even utter glass cannons like Beedrill-Mega can legitimately make use of support moves at times; in Beedrill-Mega instance, it would be Toxic Spikes, which is weirdly decent on that thing.
Regardless, set-up moves alone do not necessarily indicate an offensive set, even if the offense-oriented set-up moves are of course good indicators of one.
Never mind not gonna clarify. I think my point was oversimplified and missed any way.
Does anyone else play the Battle dome? I swear Smogon needs to make an official battledome meta. 4 people in a battle no friends just trying to get the most kills and keep the most Mon at the end is helps fun. Even in the game it is fun.
Damn Genesect is banned lol?? Those guys don’t mess around. What isn’t on the ban list.
The not broken shit
There are 802 different numbered pokemon, shit cant be balanced and as of late theyve made more extreme stat spreads (fast and high powered with no defenses and vice versa) instead of older gens more balanced spreads. Shits crazy
First post here.
Just had the biggest monkey’s paw shit. Found a shiny Nihilego in the wild only for it to be Naughty.
Anyway, nice to meet you guys.
Yeah it’s a shame that Ultra Beasts aren’t shiny locked like regular Pokémon. Did you try to use a mon with the Synchronize ability at least?
Welcome to the thread.
Yeppers. Had a timid Ralts with me.
I’ll try again during the weekend. I look forward to battling with you guys in the future.
Probably gonna do a USUM tournament in the next two weeks. It’s gonna be nothing special, just bouts using the rules on page 1.
Question. Which of Kommo O abilities is bettee in OU? I guess soundproof is rising in popularity to counter other Kommonium Z users. (At least that shit hits behind subs)
The one where you replace kommo-o with an actually good poke
Bulletproof can allow you to have a free switch-in and set-up against choice locked scarfers like Blacephalon and Gengar using Shadow ball and Sludge Bomb M-Venusaur.
Appreciate that WS!
Only thing other than K-Z I can think of using SP for is hyper voice attacks. Not sure if any other moves in OU on coming mons are blocked by it.
The answer is still Soundproof for two reasons.
- Means he cannot be Roared out, which is a bigger deal with Roar seeing an uptick in play to phase.
- It means that when facing another Kommo-O, they cannot Soulblaze anymore than you can.
- Also allows him to come in on M-Gardevoir and Sylveon (moreso the latter as Garde can still hit you with Psyshock and peace you out).
Oh don’t get me wrong, I know Soundproof is more practical; that just means you can easily bluff it on the ladder and create the aforementioned opportunities. I merely showing him an alternative with Bulletproof. M-Gardevoir and Sylveon are hardly in OU though.
To be fair, Kommo-o has no business in OU either if you’re serious about winning.
I’d probably still use it, but I like to troll with under-powered and underrated mons.
The actual problem with kommo-o is the fairy infestation in OU. Apparently kommonium (whatever it’s called) is crazy good in UU
It’s crazy that just a few gens ago Kommo-O, with its Dragon/ Fighting typing, abilities, and stat spread would’ve been seen as the Destroyer of Worlds. Now it needs so much padding in the form of a new Z-Move and move tutors just to break even.
In Gen 8 Kyogre will be OU lol.
Fairies, dawg. I told y’all those cute bastards were gonna be runnin’ thangs from now on:
Pray to your Fairy overlords… at least until we get some decently powerful Steel and Poison types that can deal with…
Spoiler
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…them…
Oh yeah… That’s right.