Comp. Pokemon Thread MK2: Let's Go Back To Kanto Like Everyone Wanted!

Nidoking hits hard as hell, it ohkos a lot of things

Stakataka hits hard as hell with gyro balls, it’s actually hard to switch into. With a choice band it can 2hko defensive landorus

Stakataka is mega aggron with better special defense, gyro ball, and trick room. And doesn’t require a mega stone slot. Could possibly be BL just because it’s retarded stat spread that all UBs have.

Blacephelon can’t really be switched into well but it lacks fighting based coverage moves so ttar and heatran are good candidates for eating a move. Chansey can be beaten bc the stupid thing can learn knock off. Hydreigon and MegaDos resists both of its STABs too.

It probably loses to toxapex and tapu fini. Can be revenge killed because if its awkward speed tier. Still solid BL to OU. Considering that OU is mini ubers even something with a 150BP fire attack and 140> special attack isn’t insane enough.

Z-Sunny Day Blacephelon.

Laugh as you nuke just about everything in sight.

These sets are fucking awful

It being walled by toxapex is an issue. It can probably bust through tapu fini. Megados/hydreigon are not going to tank hits all too well cause this thing is stupid strong. It’s really strapped for moves tho which sucks.

https://pastebin.com/raw/yy8wTD0G

Somebody sorted through the lists already! Shoutouts to no lifers.

If you want to find out the new egg moves, just use the find feature in your browser and type ‘egg’. Whew.

EDIT: Samurott finally learns Sacred Sword. I mean it still fucking sucks, but at least it makes sense finally.

DOUBLE EDIT: Garbador learns autotomize for some reason. A fast bag of garbage is funny so that’s notable in that way. Accelgor FINALLY learns toxic spikes, but with all the new defog guys, a spikes lead is useless. Too little too late.

Boufflant finally has a niche by learning Cotton Guard, instead of just being worse Tauros.

Gogoat finally learns Grassy Terrain. It’s fucking nonsense that it has an ability like grass pelt, and no way to set up Terrain. Gamefreak REALLY thought that giving it terrain would push it over the top? Smfh.

Slurpuff can put down sticky webs for some reason. Actually wait, that makes sense.

(BullDancer, that list has been out for over a week already. I think maybe even almost two at this point given that’s when Ultra got datamined to hell and back. Still, it’s nice to have (another) link to it I guess.)

I don’t see how Toxapex walls Stakataka when the latter gets Earthquake (and Stomping Tantrum), even if it lacks STAB on Ground obviously. Then again, this is part of the reason why Choice Band on Stakataka seems greedy to me even if I get the power appeal, especially since no one is using either of the Bulletproof pokemon in OU (yet) apparently.

^ I was referring to Toxapex beating Blacephelon cleanly. Like it walls most things cleanly. I didn’t know that someone in the thread posted the organized non-clusterfuck version.

Ah. Your post hadn’t been edited when I replied. Noted.

I am unsure if it was posted since I am too lazy to go back and check two pages ago; I was pointing out that it already existed and others in here already knew of it. No harm in reposting the link though, especially since you didn’t know.

Blacephelon has no chance against Toxapex. Maybe if you use Z-Shadow Ball it might tickle Pex… Well Psyshock or Tricking a Scarf might help a little bit.

Everyone else gets their mind blown. Too bad it doesn’t have shit to take advantage of that attack stat outside of cheese Flame Charge and Knock Off trolling.

Nice to see Mood already in mid-season form crying about Naganadel.

Im not crying about naganadel lol. Im in the discord and see the stupidity. Teams are basically swept or run av ttar, av magearna, spd heatran AND CB Weavile on one team or you get swept. It’s dumb lol

Just punch it in the face

I think I might wait for a rom hack to come out for the Ultra games to play the single player in earnest and buy the new one in the meantime just for battling. Just found this today, and this is the way things should be. I think I’d be engaged with the game alot more, if they just made a better single player experience.

Don’t wanna spoil the game but… Is anyone having problem with Necrozma after the 7th trial? That level jump is pissing me off (especially since I over level the entire game through only to get caught with my pants down for this piece of shit fucker).

Finally beat it. Had to stall it is geyser move and let Primarina clean it up. Also had to level up my mons. Didn’t even know its typing either.

Ultra Necrozma is Psychic/Dragon, and has a BST right below that of Mega Ray-Ray gawd of all Pokemon gawds.

Ultra necrozma doesnt get to use an item at least…although it using a z move is ridiculous, it’s at least forced to do so

There are some rumblings smogon might potentially drop dawn necrozma after they deal with naganadel

There are some rumblings Smogon is an irrelevant clown show whose “meta” doesn’t even resemble actual Pokemon anymore.

There are rumblings you need to shut the fuck up but those dont seem to hold.

Damn, i really wish they would

Everytime you mention it, I will shit on it.

You know how this works by now.

I know but you dont need to. You have some sort of Napoleon complex or something where you have to turn everything to focus on you.

This isn’t about me.

It’s about shitting on Smogon as any true red-blooded Pokemon player should.