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No it can do that now.

It can be used against air pressure with those 2 exceptions… well actually safe jumps ain’t safe anymore so just risky against empty jumps now

If this is true claw will appear broken… love the changes but you know ppl will bitch

It’s not that eventhubs isn’t a good report site… but some of those news are almost too good to be true. Those would be almost all we asked for : invincible reversal, more frame advantage on CH… and a comboable ultra.

If those are true though… the hunted-hunter games will reverse against some characters. =D

I think you wrote that a little too fast. I’ve got some good Claw players in my contacts, and one of them really achieves the +1 perfect CH just by spacing it by walk. If we get +2, that means a cLK would counterhit a throw or any light attack. This is huge. +2 on point blank would make it +6 on meaty block, which would be OP, even more compared to his best others normals.

I could accept the RCF being more negative, though -8 seems far too much. Though then it’s frame-advatage on hit may suck. An not having it FADCable on hit, would make it suck even more. In other words, added to it’s whiff tendencies, it would become a useless move on hit and on block.

But that doesn’t lines up with EX RCF going +4 on block. Wait & see for official changelist, just as Star said. =)

I haven’t been successful getting U2 to work on ground pressure as much unless it’s a slower move that can’t be canceled and has enough recovery that they can’t block. The faster U2 would probably help with that issue, but we’ll see. I hope that the extra speed doesn’t mean U2 gets nerfed damage, they’ve already nerfed it once.

We have to wait more before getting excited, I clearly remember one moment 4 years ago, when Super version released. Someone told all of us ‘’ U1 can hit on the way up, this is one of the best ultra right now, people cant jump in anymore’’.

And what we have at this time was flawed ultra that could not connect from anything, nor anti air.

So observation cant be reliable, just wait until final confirmation

Throws can’t be counter hit
Meatys are unreliable now
+2 on block is just safer. It doesn’t open up any offensive options he doesn’t already have with sLK and cMK… (and cLP).

CH buff is worthless unless it can be spaced at at least +3. Its worthless because nothing changes. But with everything else… I’m not complaining.

Its worth the -8 for rcf

I land U1 as an anti air far more than U2 as it is now. Go under their jump in and nail em from behind

My opinion, if all buffs we mentioned so far are real, then this worse RCF will be alright

It’s hard , I can only use it against character with big hurtbox, floaty and slow jumping like Gief

Of course you have, f. e. me :wink: But who is that in particular, must add him too if not already.

I must also admit to follow all those rumors is indeed quite fun. But with all thoses changes known now we can only be disapointed later on when some/most don’t make it in the final version. Cosmic Heel beeing safe from all distances again (must be -2 on point blank If I am not misstaken) alone makes me so happy, and then U2… All the possibilites… everything else I choose to ignore for now.

We’ll counterhit or throw someone pressing a normal after CH now. We can put them in blockstun after it unless they let an srk rip, too.

idk if we can do anything like force a grab whiff?

Why so ? You mean no one will achieve that +2 in real life ? =)

Yeah I think so.

Just the 5 fs U2 for example. All of us are thinking about it getting more comboable after CH but… that would make it linkable after cLP and cMK as well… a bit OP IMO. =D

cLP cLP cLP Ultra… fucked red focus, no bar needed. A bit much comboable for what we asked… =D

Come on, do you not know Mr. Cosmic heel from GFWL ? The one that cosmic heel you on footsies, at wake up, to move himself… and against which i can never tech in time. X_X

Wisdom has spoken. =)

When was the last time this sub-forum being this fun =))
If everything is true, Jozhear, Makoto0124, Tatsu, Reiketsu…and more Vega users might Win in big tournament…ah EVO as well

Edit: nvm. Did my math wrong.

I take it back. CH buff not worthless

Be aware Vega still has a huge glaring problem.He cannot open up opponents without taking huge risks. Get the life lead early. At least now you can keep it much easier though

Edit: Damn these poste are coming and getting changed too fast.

In conclusion: CH will be great again!

That was 10 min ago lol

And it was only like that for 4 min

Yeah but I have to pretend to work in 9 of those 10 minutes :wink: And i left my reply written but unposted until it was already changed by you :slight_smile:

for me, i can frame trap with CH without getting punished if i guessed wrong! woo!

These buffs are really good. People will cry, even vegas will cry that too many buffs isnt fair to us, the guy reporting stuff is hinting he should get nerfed already. He still wont have amazing mixups or close to anything previous top 8 had. He still has to take risks cant do chip, oki weak, no cross up and not amazing on wakeup (not sure how ultra start up will change things) having ex flip kick probably isnt gonna be amazing see guy for reference. guy buffed vega buffed both my weak mains are gonna be good i think people should be scared of how high guy will be more than vega.

Hm i really do not see the purpose of the rcf nerf. Who cried about (or found a way to abuse) this move?. Might as well make SHC -120 on block. But anyway one more thing that did not get mentioned enough:

I swear I will throw my mask every round if I don’t have to pick it up again accidently