Yeah, that’s kinda where I was, at that point, I’d just run Dante. So then the question is, Repulsor Blast or Unibeam…
What’s your opinion on that one?
More stuff, here’s the combos I posted in the combo thread.
Iron Man Unibeam Relaunch (MarlinPie Style):
Greatly Improved Repulso Relaunch (very easy, and more damage than my previous one):
On the second video can you do the repulso relaunch out of the corner? I could imagine some problems, but I’m not sure.
Nice stuff BTW!
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I don’t know if any you have explored FADC as much as I have, but if you have even done a bit of digging you will see its pretty dirty stuff and has a lot of untapped potential.
Got a tutorial and examples of what FADC might bring to Viper’s game. Execution heavy stuff here though.
Yeah, but it’s tricky, you have to do you jS on the first launch so that you land nice and close the opponent. You can do this by omitting the double jump and doing something like S>jC>(Delay)>jS Basically set it up so that you could do Dash>Seismo>Burst time and it should work. However, thanks to the EX TK, you can almost always get the corner.
Also, since you can also do the relaunch with Unibeam, I’m not overly inclined to pick Repulsor, unless you don’t have JamSession. Repulsor is a really good JamSession replacement. However, Repulsor is alot better for focus traps (like on incoming characters) than Jam Session because it scales the combo so much less. It can also set up some screwy reset mixups because of how they move. However, as confusing as they look, I don’t think they’re strictly better than a reset into Jam Session mixup.
Great vids, I always liked the presentation of your videos.
I’ve been abusing that Siesmo>FADC>Siesmo for a while now. I think it’s easier than rapid siesmo. I still fuck up rapid siesmo at the worst times and refuse to rely on them for that reason.
My usual tricks are:
FADC>2B
FADC>Unibeam>BK or 6B
FADC>M TK late feint>Throw
What capture set up do you use? (trying to improve mine).
Also, you don’t need to super jump to FADC a normal jump will do, and is a frame or two faster I think.
I took second at Starbase to F-champ again. Hadn’t been able to make it out for a few thanks to car phobias after the crash but I’m doing okay with cars now and was able to make it! I despise second so very much… I know he was EVO top 8 and all, but I need to play like I do in casuals against him and not get my tourney fail on. >.<
It was a small bracket this time. 
My first match is at Part 2 0:30 against Hiro (MODOK/Doom/Dorm), I’ve gotten a lot of experience against him and despite some set backs I play fairly convincingly this time. Lots of dropped combos though. I don’t think I completed one.
Second match is against F-Champ (Magneto/Dormammu/Phoenix) Part 5 0:45 I lose thanks to getting burst time instead of Emergency Combination in the first match. Second match I get beaten.
Third match is against Billy (Spencer/Wolverine/Tron) Part 8 0:30 I use Haggar as I don’t like fighting Tron for real. I don’t do combos tonight X_X
Fourth match is against Dacidbro (Dante/Taskmaster/Akuma) Part 9 0:40 First match goes very well. Second match gets down to Haggar almost reverse OCVing him again but I lose. Third match I take despite it being close. Mainly Dante doing work after Viper takes him to half health simply by existing.
Fifth match is against AsianXCore trolliest loser’s finals ever (Hulk/Sent/Wesker) part 9 7:50 He’s trolling, I run into a risen dark Wesker a lot, manage to win somehow anyways. I get booed for beating that team. XD
Sixth match, grand finals against F-champ. =/ (Magneto/Sent/Dorm) Part 10 0:20 I am sadness and failure.
I’m surprised you don’t like fighting Tron. That matchup IMO for Viper is like 10-0. Tronne’s only real tool to get on viper is her Drill. Everything other tool Tronne has can get countered like 9 times out of 10
Getting 2nd is no small feat though. Good job again! Ryan is just damn good with his reads and blocking. I was amazed by some of the things he did
I love fighting Tron on point, it’s just I don’t like dealing with mobile characters with Tron assist. If I put someone in hit stun I hate getting punished for it, with Haggar it removes their ability to use Tron as an assist.
Yeah we’ve all seen that before lol. I don’t know lately I’ve been very much more inclined to zone when I have to deal with that assist, or bait it out and punish then. Can’t say I’ve played the best of the best who know how to protect that assist because I have pretty good success with destroying Tronne as an assist. I wouldn’t mind Haggar/Tronne as assists with ridiculous invincibility if on HIT of the opponent the assist would come out and not attack and have a moment to get punished (MvC2 style?). That to me would be the best solution to letting them keep their invincibility. Allows a risk for a very high reward assist.
Chrisis, your Viper got taken out instantly each time when going against Champ, I think it was Grand finals? You didn’t even get to set up an offense with her, that looked like the Biggest reason you didn’t take 1st.
Gottnoskill any hope for more uploads showing your Viper play? I really enjoyed the matches with Windzero7. Since hardly anyone plays Viper, and Marlin Pie and K-Beast only have a few Videos of their Viper on youtube I don’t get to see any other Vipers play, So I don’t get to see some things I should pick up on. Ultimately making my Viper better.
(Also that guys Chris and Jill are GDLK ^_^)
I agree, my Viper was off that day, it actually was totally fine at beating Dormammu or Sent, but she was just in fail mode against Magneto kept spacing things wrong and not cancelling them, then easy mode Dante/Magneto does all the work despite not being as good. Watch K-beast the most for Viper he actually uses defense correctly with her even though he makes questionable decisions elsewhere, every tournament we’ve played I’ve won, but it’s always close and I think he has more of her intelligent play in his head 90% of the time.
Yeah from what I’ve seen of your Viper you actually do incredibly well with the Magneto matchup, Unlike me where I find the Magneto/Viper matchup incredibly hard. I don’t even bother putting Viper on point against him unless I know my opponent is the Zoning type and will use Disruptah’s backed with an assist so i can carefully counter with an Ex.TK. I honestly think K-beast has the best Viper around, I really wish I could find more of his gameplay around, his Viper is truly a form of perfection.
Marlin Pie has the best Viper IMO hands down. His execution alone makes hi Viper insane. He could learn to block a little more but can’t we all. Chrisis Viper is #2 IMO and KBeast #3.
KBeast goes bananas with seismos which people jizz over though.
The thing that K-beast does better than me or Marlin is abuse one of her many stupid options in random neutral game focus into EX seismic hammer which everyone should be spamming a lot, but I can’t get my fingers to remember that I have an answer to every situation in that. >.<
seriously. i nee dto learn how to do this shit. and when
hmm ive been considering using IM, but idk if i would put him over magneto, to be honest, my curret team of vip/dante/mag works pretty well, IM is interesting but IMO he’s too much work and unlike viper, it isnt that worth it as magneto does everything better. what do u guys think?
IM is worth the work in the sense tht the character is actually pretty good, but your also right when you say Magneto is just flat better.
I think Unibeam is a better assist then disruptor, which is part of the reason I use IM on my Viper team.
I think it depends on the situation when it comes to Disruptor vs Unibeam for what is the better assist. For characters that can have a teleport left/right mixup with an assist I would say Disruptor is better for the fact it hits once so the scaling isnt nearly as bad. But for characters like Wesker and Viper I would say that Unibeam is better because it holds them in place long enough for people to get close and start the mix up game.
Ironman is good. I think people are seeping on him. I think his trijump is better for one reason. I think that down Heavy really helps him since it has insane range. I also like his double jump better than the ability to dash cancel normals.
But overall magneto is better. Its a 10-0 matchup lol. I mean hes fighting a guy who controls magnetism while wearing a metal suit of armor. You would think he would keep a wood suit to deal with this. lol.But seriously magneto is a better characater but Unibeam gives alot of options to viper. I’m not super if there is an unblock able with it. But its really good for extending combos as you can do a hit confirm and a relaunch