As for your gameplay, I wouldn’t use that headstomp combo at all to punish. Just go with c.lkx2 ex legs or s.hk ex legs. Also you have to stop doing ex legs after hazanshu. If you want to hit ex legs, you have to add a c.lk. If you’re doing c.lp, you should just go for the s.hp instead of c.hk/hazanshu.
You play a lot like a lot of online Chuns that I’ve played. Just go for combos rather than trying to hit the c.hk or hazanshu.
i’m on xbox live, and yeah that guy is really good. i guess you’d have to play him to understand, but he has a crazy mixup game with fei. he also does all that on a gamepad. (he’s also in G1 in champ mode which takes at least some skill to get to…at least for me who’s having some trouble still in g2)
taking your advice though, i’m never going to use that headstomp combo unless i have no chance of getting one ex bar for st.hk ex legs or clk x 2 ex legs. but ex legs DOES link after hazanshu…i’ve practiced it in training mode. in fact ex legs after hazanshu followed by a juggling ultra against the wall = insane damage.
but yeah i should be using that one c lk to guarantee i nail the legs, especially since against fei i can’t combo him against the wall with ultra anyway. never thought of trying c.lp -> s.hp, thanks for that info. i’m in the process of breaking that c.hk habit btw
thanks. i guess i’m just not very good yet so i assumed he was based on how difficult it is for me to beat him compared to every other fei long i come up against. i realize now how stupid it sounds that i wrote “one of the best,” sorry about that.
i’m still learning the mechanics of the game since sf4 is my first sf, but it feels that i almost understand them. one of my problems is being unsure of what exactly beats what in some situations (usually matchups i don’t know), and another problem is not knowing exactly what i can link from what (like c.lp to clk. to c.mk or or something). i’m in training mode all the time, it’s more that i’m at a point where it’s still difficult for me to mentally have the frame data kind of understood in the back of my head without thinking about it for things in the moment of a game.
i appreciate the advice though, hopefully i’ll be able to post some at least decent gameplays soon
Interesting ending. Honda does dash HHS FADC tic throw. Watching it, I was like… Chun could do that. lol :[ Probably not to a Honda, but it’s definitely something I’m keeping in my bag of tricks.
Hey, someone used to upload NSB videos to their youtube. Does anyone mind adding this video http://zoome.jp/nsb/diary/111 to it? It’s one of my favorite Chun runs of all time .
Huh? You posted up combos involving Legs and FADC and you never used that mixup before?
I was playing Jibbo (who does that quite a bit with Gen) and when I did it on him, people claimed I “stole” his mixup.
:lol: I didn’t steal it. I already knew about it because of you samma. I was going for the combo you posted but since he was blocking I went for the FADC grab instead.
tbh, I always thought it would be a waste of meter, but it’s better than chip damage that’s for sure. I guess my opinion was skewed from all the damage and stun those legs combos did lol Seeing it win someone a round though, I can see how something like that could turn the tide of a match when pressure is high. When I first saw it, I thought Honda’s FADC start up was just ex HHS.
Like if I really needed to cover some ground but I’m too scared to jump or dash twice in a row, this might suddenly come to me kinda thing.
Thanks for recording and posting these, it’s great to be able to watch your game as a spectator. Much easier to poke holes in it from this viewpoint, than when I’m playing. Also, the quality is really nice too.
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A bunch of stuff jumped out at me immediately, for one I didn’t realise how predictable my strings were. I think I need to start making more of an effort to learn the s.fp link, rather than s.mp, which can sometimes get counterhits, but adds nothing to a combo string when the other person doesn’t press buttons afterwards. Also, my blockstrings are generally the same thing, cr.lk->cr.lp->s.lp->s.mp->kikouken & then I dash forward and s.fp so many times. I think I learned that one from Shoto’s who think its fine to just jump at Chun-Li all day (In which idea they aren’t really wrong.)
I suck at blocking hasan shu, have to work on that one, because it’s hurting me in Chun mirrors quite a bit. I played a Chun earlier that was good with hasan shu and knew the cr.lk link, making the match harder for myself than necessary.
Ex.legs->ex.legs… I never use that combo and I would’ve taken a round in match 2 with it. At the time I was wondering if I was close enough to the corner to land ultra, I can remember. It’s still an unfortunate way to forfeit a round though.
I’m also mashing so hard for ex.legs that if my meaty whiffs I don’t notice and the ex.legs are going to come out anyway. I’m not entirely sure what I can do about that, it’s hard enough pressing those kicks in time on a pad as it is.
I have a feeling that although I’m using focus attacks alot, I’m not letting them charge for long enough before cancelling it with a dash. It almost isn’t giving my opponent time to press any unfortunate buttons.
If anyone else has time to watch a few of the matches and has some observations I’d be interested to hear them.
If anything, Thunder, I noticed that you were almost always content with dashing back once you’ve absorbed a sweep or other hit that you could have crumpled him for. Maybe it’s just habit for you, but you could have had some good opportunities to turn the match around, instead you ended up sucking in extra hits that would have been better off blocked (considering you weren’t going to counter hit).
You’re right, I never release focus and backdash with level 1 FA’s. I’ve taken the grey damage already anyway so there isn’t anything to lose. I think I developed that habit from jump-ins and it’s bleeding into my ground game. Certain players when they see a focus attack flash as an anti-air start mashing jab or throw as soon as they hit the floor, so I got into the habit of dashing back and punishing them as they whiff. But, against ground attacks thats obviously not the best thing to do.
I definately need to start using focus attacks better, I always regret it when I absorb a sweep which should be a free crumple, or a hasan shu even, and then backdash out of it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Concerning round two of match two, I think even if you weren’t in the corner enough, the few hits connecting ex legs to ultra would have finished off the job.
I feel your pain about trying to pull it off on a stick, but it’s a good habit to have your input holding back or down-back when combo’ing ex legs, so, just in case, you can throw out the ultra if you want.
EDIT: Match 3 Round 3, same thing. You won it anyways this time, but having the charge que’d up would have allowed you to finish it from that hazanshu->cr forward-> ex legs combo.
edit: Y24 was the first Chun Li I’ve seen to have match up specific tools. He’s the one that taught me dash up walk 1 step st.strong vs Blanka, fierce against Rog. Now that I’m more familiar with Chun, I’ve realized I’ve been missing back dash roundhouse legs on Balrog, I always used to do it after a kikoken. I’ve also noticed he just lets out that hasan-shu on Rog once in a while, it’s something I need to start doing, at least when they walk up to me.
Also, he does some good stuff on Viper. st.strong is always good, and he was the first I’ve seen to duck a burning kick with low forward.
I agree on both points. Now that you mention it, I used to go for the outside corner ultra juggle if I had any suscipion that it might be enough to finish the round off. I stopped doing it after I misjudged it a few times against an Abel player who promptly teched the fall and reversal ultra’d me in kind. I wasn’t even considering it in match 3 though, so it’s something I need to make a decision with much quicker during those clutch situations. Thanks for spotting that.
Y24 was great in that video, I recognised alot things MM had been talking about. I’m not sure if I’d seen it before, but it showed me a few of those tricks in action which makes it easier to recognise their worth & steal.
I have around 20 matches with Dr Chaos coming up again. Not all are with Chun, I sometimes ventured off to Viper/Ken/whatever sometimes so it didn’t get stale :arazz:.
I can only queue 10, so I’ll have to make a 2nd trip to upload the rest. The videos are vs Akuma, Ken, and Ryu.
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