The same thing could be said of Cammy. Nobody is dropping their signature moves.
Itās not the final build, thereās only 6 charactersā¦ she had decent damage from what I saw. Sheās easier to AA with. I didnāt see people doing reversals that often in the matches I watched. With no vortex you donāt need a 3f DP to get out of jail like you did before. I donāt think itās time to commission her headstone yet.
Chun looks real strong up close, good throw range s.hk goes over lows and that c.mk looks 3s good 
Dark Ages boys coming back for dat 3S goodness.
I wouldnāt fret. Considering all of the pros in attendance at E3 played Chun and then proceeded to drop her for someone better have me looking forward to the next build. That must show the developers that she is currently weaker when compared to the other revealed characters. I think sheāll receive some attention towards making her character feel whole for the next build. Are Capcom at Gamescom?
Well in all seriousness, of the players in attendance at E3 - none of them really play Chun in SF4. Ricky you could argue āplaysā her - basically all Iām saying it is only obvious that players that are currently all about USF4 and competing on a serious level within the Capcom Tour are going to jump on the immediately strongest character they see.
Look at Gooteckās Ryu for example, he played him methodically and essentially ālameā. He certainly didnāt exploit Ryuās strengths because those strengths havenāt been flushed out. He played him with proper spacing, patience and Super Turbo style. Ryu looked very effective in that regard.
Chun on the other hand has some new traits and a lot of new things. I canāt remember a time she had so many command normals.
Plus Peter said she has a Target Combo like other characters beyond the TCās we already know like Cr. Hp and Jp. Hp
but it was never discussed what it was and I havenāt seen anyone note on it either.
Iām willing to bet it is the quick slaps we saw in earlier builds which were canceled in to LLegs. so maybe St.Lp > St. Mp?
Gootecks has always essentially played ryu that way. He is very basic as a rule. Ryu was one of his mains for the first couple of months of vanilla arcade sf4
I can argue the fact that every player there probably gave every character a go before choosing who they would play and regardless of their USF4 main SF5 plays too differently for that to matter at the moment.
Side note, I will admit I donāt like blatantly saying āChun is the weakest, how disappointingā because the game has yet to be explored and to me Chun DOES look strong, she just looks like she is harder to play than say Birdie and may require some tech along with her for the full effect. But at the same time the amount of things theyāve tweaked and removed have made a seemingly new more aggressive and interesting Chun-Li back into what looks to be a pretty basic character. The loss of the spinning air kick, the double fireball in V-Trigger, losing properties from attacks so on so forth. It isnāt so much that I thought she looked clear as day weaker than the others but that Capcom seemed to have removed a lot of the interesting moves they gave her, and ultimately she looks worse for it now. Personally I want the spinning air kick back, it looked dope!
Chun just will rape you in other ways. Her V-trigger doesnāt seem to push back a lot, unlike other shadow supers (A2 Rose), which will probably make her the scariest character up close once people figure out her frame traps and confirms, along with ticking to throw. Hell Mike Ross got owned by Combo doing like 3-4 s.fp by trying to do something after he was hit. Also you might be able to set up safe pressure by doing very early meaty, where only the shadow hits and chun is blocking/neutral. I see a lot of potential, itās just not like other v-triggers where it is more apparent.
There goes that word againā¦
What word
āPotentialā
Chunās word for life and Dimeās least favorite word.
I hate the word āPotentialā myself. Back to Gooteckās Ryu and Dime stating that is how Ryan has played Ryu from basically day 1. I rest my case. You donāt have to play Ryu anymore radical than lame to win. Just Cr.MK xx Hadouken, DP obvious jump-ins, adequately punish mistakes and block with patience. I hardly play Ryu and he is definitely sharp and I play super lame - General, smart and fundamental.
Chun canāt play that way in USF4. Everyone said she has potential in SF4-series but nothing more.
Take Infiltrationās results against Momochi this past weekend. Infiltration was up 2-0 Chun vs Ken
He played extremely well, excellent spacing, smart decisions, but ultimately he lost.
He lost because he left a lot of damage on the table, damage that a character like Chun, MUST, dish out when she can because she will not win nickel and diming. Momo basically got tired of the wall Chun was trying to put up and rush her down and killed her.
Trust me if it is a match up I donāt like I switch to Juri, I play them probably 50/50
I win with Juri a lot because people donāt know how to fight her. Everyone knows Chun, especially the fact you can bully her and she canāt do crap about it. My number one advice as Chun-Li mainer, you have troubles beating her? You arenāt rushing her down properly.
Iām just waiting for Momochi to find some nasty combos into V Trigger just in time for the beta release so I can have an excuse to a buy a PS4 after Evo and make people mad with Chun Li for 6 days. Then of course be nerfed to hell by the time March hits.
Arent you a pc player?
PC and Xbone ATM, but I have a friend who has convinced me that the PS4 may still be worth getting incase thereās speed discrepancies between the PS4 and PC versions. Mainly since the PS4 version will still most likely be exclusively played at tournaments.
Iām also going to be regularly streaming KI again and most likely set up a fund to get me a PS4. I already have 75 bucks saved up so about 300 more in donations and I can go pick one up. Streaming SFV even for 6 days during a beta is pretty much free twitch follows/views.
If the PC version runs completely 1 to 1 with the PS4 version then Iāll most likely stick with that version and sell my PS4 if I donāt find anything worth keeping it for. I only play fighting games any way.
Ah so you might get a Ps4 just in case for a few reasons.
- potentially bad for pc (along with cross play)
- player base could think out quick
Makes sense.
If there were speed discrepancies between the versions you wouldnāt be able to have crossplay. Everyone would desync.
Maybe in theory, but Iām not going to take my chances yet for that being what happens in reality.
Yeah well, this isnāt a 6 year old game, all I can say for anyone is potential.
Thatās one of the primary reasons why I dislike the word, any and everyone has potential at this point in time in a games life. I have no qualms with people using the word, but it does rope in lesser experienced players into trying shitty characters and wasting time on them.
Characters with REAL potential are generally known to be strong right off the bat.
The only character that really became strong after a lackluster or actually terrible start that I know of is sf4 viper. And few people were saying she had potential in the first days. The days when edma was using her. She wouldnāt be figured out till the Japanese got a hold of her higher execution abilities and once that happened it was no longer considered potential, she was just considered strong.
Anyways, yeah. I have NO problem with people using the word, itās just that the use of the word sets off shitty character alarm bells in my head
the reason is because people that tend to use the word, including myself, donāt usually know what that potential even is. If they did it wouldnāt be potential. It would be:
This such and such is really strong.
Not this such and such has potential.
Anyways, thatās just a clarification of why I think the way I do. People can continue to use the word, Iām not going to try to stop them or say things or whatever.
i just think folks need to take things said here with a grain of salt, which of course goes for what Iām saying as well.