Chun-Li Combos and Glitches

[Venomish]

Nice I never seen this before… shizza dashed in and did headstomps after a Focus Attack against airborne viper. I used to dash in forward twice and sweep them but good to know this works too.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6711101
@15:52

[RaidenthaShocka]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but what are the frames on hit for light and medium legs? Event hubs says +6 and +4, but I’ve read that cr.Fp XX HK legs XX MK legs, sweep is possible so that can’t be right. I was wondering if HK legs XX LK legs was possible and whether it was worth trying if the frames on hit are better. (I can’t link that sweep after legs at all at the moment.)

I was also thinking of trying cr.FP XX HK legs XX MK legs, st.lp, st.FP as a meterless punish, since I find that last link a lot easier.

Also thinking about meterless combos, does anyone think cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mk XX kikouken is worth learning? I was trying to get the hang of it in vanilla, but it seemed the range was very short to land the fireball.

cr.hk after mk.ll is a one frame link. Two if you plink the sweep. Go into the dojo and practice it. you’ll find it’ll be more and more landable when you learn the timing and practice the plink. Getting a knockdown is what it’s all about.

cr.lk, cr.lp, cr.mk XX kiko won’t connect. Has to be ex.kiko.

[Ark_Impulse]

Hey sorry if this has been posted before I didn’t look through all the combo pages. Somehow I missed this until now, but DF+Short > dash > Ultra2 works everywhere on the screen with no meter. At first I was trying to use dash EX legs to get more range when the DF+Short lands at max distance, but then I realized I didn’t need the legs, just the dash. I thought it was a little broken at first but it only does about 300 dmg. It reminds me a lot of LP.SRK > ultra.

If you don’t have Ultra 2 stored, you can dash ex legs for about 120-130 if all 4 kicks land.

Lastly, you can sometimes try to dash > stomp x3 if you hit them as high as possible or they’re in the corner. Although, I think if you don’t have meter it might be better to use St.MK anti-air which might trade more often and make them more likely to jump again later in the match when you do have ultra.

Yeah it’s known, but you’re making it too hard for yourself. :looney:

You don’t need the dash, it’ll still connect.

[Rogerdodger1021]

What is the best way to to C.HP into HK legs on a stick?

I see a lot of chuns do this but have a hard time figuring it out how.

[h0bbes102]

What is the best way to to C.HP into HK legs on a stick?

I see a lot of chuns do this but have a hard time figuring it out how.

slide from cr.HP -> HK -> MK -> LK -> MK -> HK
then mash on MK (4x) to cancel into MK legs.

that’s one way to do it, anyway. there are a few variations.
you can piano it too, without a need for a slide (if you don’t want to use a glove or develop calluses)
cr. HP + MK (right hand) ->
LK (left thumb)
LK ~ MK ~ HK (right hand, either piano or slide)

…we should come up with a name for this combo…

[Ark_Impulse]

What is the best way to to C.HP into HK legs on a stick?

I see a lot of chuns do this but have a hard time figuring it out how.

Two ways.

1. Sliding. [media=youtube]uMG5mpzBqSg[/media]

2. Piano’ing. (Not sure about a video)

Piano method would be something like:
fierce(middle)+ forward(index) , roundhouse(ring)-> forward(middle) -> short(index) -> roundhouse(ring).

[fokkusuhaundo]

What is the best way to to C.HP into HK legs on a stick?

I see a lot of chuns do this but have a hard time figuring it out how.

For a while I was using this slide~piano~slide method:

I start with my ring finger on HP, slide it down to HK, piano my middle finger on MK and index on LK, then slide my index finger back to HK. My success rate for this is only 60% but I’m still practicing it.

Only 60% success in training mode and very unreliable in an actual match. The inputs just looked sloppy when I viewed them and it wasn’t getting any better with practice.

So I came up with this new method for myself:

(HP+MK~HK~LK~MK~HK) Ring finger on HP + middle on MK, slide ring finger down to HK, then slide index finger from LK to HK.

It feels a lot cleaner and now I’m able to pull it off in a match as a punish as often as I can do cl.HK xx HK Legs.

[HisNameIsL]

Why waste 2 meters? Why not just do the upkicks when it hits and FADC if it’s blocked? You can still do ultra.

FADC is used to avoid scaling. The last hit of the Upkick combo hits multiple times and scales down the damage on the ultra more. FADCing on the second hit -> Ultra will grant you around 100 more damage (I think it totals to around 380-390? Not too sure at the moment.) Full upkicks to ultra will get you around 260 damage.

It’s a nice punisher. It doesn’t have much use outside of that, though, as it’s pretty difficult to land.

[Darklightjg1]

Upkicks only count as one additional hit toward scaling. Not 3 or 4. I don’t think it does only 260 combined with U2. That would be ridiculous.

[PointBreak91]

Heck, if you got em in a corner (and especially if it’ll win you the round/match) you can just follow through with the whole :l:+:mk: > :mk: > :d::u:+:mk: then give them U2 on the way down.

I gave Chun a whirl for the first time in this game today, and mostly went with UII. It’s obviously a pretty effective anti-air device anyway, so I wondered if it would fit after the up-kicks target combo. I caught an Akuma player with it in the corner, simply busting it as he fell after the last pop up into the air, and it did great damage, and looked rather badass as well.

I think this will be an important combo for her during intermediate play, possibly even becoming the new c.MK xx SAII, in terms of dealing good, easy damage.

So, Chun-Li players must be overjoyed, cuz c’mon, in the first game (SFIV) whenever you got Ultra, it kinda involved a high level stick & buttons manoeuvre to actually land it, outside of a mashed out wake-up gamble, lol

[System_1]

It’s an ass combo. If you can use it as a punish you might as ultra outright. The only other way to connect it is after a jumpin.

[Wii_Wh1ppet]

It’s an ass combo. If you can use it as a punish you might as ultra outright. The only other way to connect it is after a jumpin.

Agreed that it is a combo I really, really never use, if you want to punish into Ultra II then clearly the best option is cl.RH, EX Legs, Ultra II, it’s easy low risk and high reward (445 damage with full Ultra I think)

[RaidenthaShocka]

Agreed that it is a combo I really, really never use, if you want to punish into Ultra II then clearly the best option is cl.RH, EX Legs, Ultra II, it’s easy low risk and high reward (445 damage with full Ultra I think)

and cl.hk comes out in 4 frames. Causes a lot of counterhit scenerios with mash jabbers.

[Maria_Croft]

FADC is used to avoid scaling. The last hit of the Upkick combo hits multiple times and scales down the damage on the ultra more. FADCing on the second hit -> Ultra will grant you around 100 more damage (I think it totals to around 380-390? Not too sure at the moment.) Full upkicks to ultra will get you around 260 damage.

It’s a nice punisher. It doesn’t have much use outside of that, though, as it’s pretty difficult to land.

Actually, if you FADC your damage is 1 less, I tested it out on Ryu yesterday and I believe it’s 388 with FADC and 389 with upkicks all the way through. But I’m not sure if I used a jump in target combo before that, I’d have to check again, but anyway, the FADC is only handy if you get blocked to get out of being punished.

Just don’t do this combo after a dizzy, it will do no damage at all.

[yode]

what are her best punish combos, ex and no meter?
Thanks!

ps i wish the first post was organized so it included everything…

[EkusuKariba]

With EX, I always punish with cl.HKxxEXLegs(, Kikousho)
Without EX you’ve got cr.lp xN, fs.HP or cr.HPxxRHLegs into this and that.

[yode]

With EX, I always punish with cl.HKxxEXLegs(, Kikousho)
Without EX you’ve got cr.lp xN, fs.HP or cr.HPxxRHLegs into this and that.

into what? sorry im a noob at chun.
also what is her BnB without ex?

[robotic_elf]

into what? sorry im a noob at chun.
also what is her BnB without ex?

This thread has a list of B&B’s, bar and otherwise as well as a bunch of other cool Chun info.
http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=184595

It’s Vanilla, but mostly that just means is it’s missing AA df.lk > dash EX legs, the fact that EX legs combos aren’t as good as they used to be, and the details about U2, which can be summed up with “juggle into it”.

Any other Basic/Newb question’s go in this thread or the Saikyo Dojo.

[Far2Casual]

I landed CH st. MP > st. HP on a Guile yesterday. That’s not even too difficult as st. MP is +5 on hit so +8 on CH, and st. HP comes out in 6 frames. The damage is pretty decent too, 185 or so, and we all know how easy it is to land some CH st. MP due to its range and speed.

I teached this Guile the power of true fists …

[SpARelentless]

There’s one thing I’ve always asked myself. How is the combo cr.LK cr.LK EX legs (and alterations) even possible?
According to frame data, cr.LK gives +2 on hit and is only chainable, not special move-cancelable. EX legs have a startup of 4 frames. Doesn’t that technically mean that this combo shouldn’t be possible, or is that just a very special attribute of the cr.LK itself?