Chicago: More Popular Than Porn ... The Legend Continues

AFAIK, all Japanese tourneys restrict players to use the same character the entire time. There are leniency within (like being able to switch SA in 3S, Arcana in AH, etc.), but the ground rule is that you need to play a single character the entire tourney. There will be some tough match-ups against the player’s favor, but overcoming those match-ups by sticking to a single character makes the tourney victories that much more meaningful.

People wouldn’t look at Kuroda the same way as a Q player if he was allowed to switch to Chun or Ken mid-tourneys whenever he pleased.

The main example in the MW that I can think of is J-Money, since he likes to go on and on about how he only uses one character. I respect him for that much…granted, we all know what to practice against to beat him, but whatever. :rofl:

Who else around here can really say they stick it out with one character in a game? (Not being a dick, just curious)

i only play honda. no matter what.

It’s not unusual to see tekken or calibur players play one character in a whole tournament. It’s actually more common than people switching around characters.

pools to a single elim bracket like the olympics are the best.

why:

1- all the people who suck and spent money and time to travel and attend don’t go 0-1 and out or even 0-2 and out like double elim, rather they will get anywhere from 4 to 8 tourney level matches (depending on pool size).

2- rewards the most consistent winners through pool play:

3- challenges the most consistent winners in a single elim bracket where it rewards the player with the fewest mistakes

4- runs faster than double elim IMO. (if youre a good tourney runner), you have stations set to pools, assign everyone a pool, people no longer report their matches (time consuming), rather just play each other in their own pool, and with good players they can sometimes handle this themselves in the best case.

5- the sports != video games arguement does not apply here, as many other video game tournament organizations run this format, (WCG, CPL, online leagues…, etc.)

downside:

1- you have to kind of know what you’re doing when you make pools, ie dont put all the killer sharks in one pool, and most tourney runners would rather just have a laptop do the work for them with a double elim system.

2- you may need a judge for pool stations, the best case situation is players play themselves and figure out for themselves who the pool winners are, the worst case situation is you need someone to go by each station and babysit or tell who has to play who. this could be time consuming if you don’t have the staff.

3- pool ties: player A beats B, B beats C, A loses to C. now you have a 3 way tie, and people may be forced to play again.

4- double elim is too established as a tradition, so nobody will like other formats. you always fear what you dont understand!

I’m not saying double elim is horrible or anything, ive ran tournaments for like 5-6 years, and every single one has been double elim. what it really comes down to is what the people want. This was really seen with the shift of 1v1 tournaments to 3v3 tournaments in guilty gear becoming the more popular norm, even being the way it was done at evo one year.

I really like the pool idea

It is, however, unusual to see Tekken or Calibur played much around the Chicagoland area, since this is (apparently) SF country.

j1n - I have no idea how pools are done, but they seem like a decent idea. It’s worked for Smash…why not other games?

thats only because it took so long for another tekken to come out. MWC like two or three years ago got over 100 for tekken DR. SF4 didn’t even get that much this year.

Im sorry Yosh but in a game like SF4 with gigantic random damage off of stupid shit, single game just wont work well.

Tigah uppuhcut…dead.

I am definitely a better player when I can step back from a loss and then readjust to win. A single game where you lose doesnt necessarily mean the guy was better than you. I lose to stupid shit all the time and then the next game I will beat the person because I adapted to whatev gimmick etc etc. And if that player doesnt counter back with dif strats as well he kinda deserved to lose cause I was the better player overall.

Case in point at how single elim is random. Mike Wakefield’s makoto at evo a couple years ago.

Im done with this subject because it seems that most people think that whatever the japanese do is superior.

Agree for same reasons.

I deleted all my posts regarding the subject this morning, I want marcus’ tournament to succeed regardless of what my opinion is. All I can say is I disagree a lot about what some of you are posting right now, but I’m done blowing this out of proportion.

To stem the unintentional flow of bleh coming from this discussion: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=207624

We don’t need more argument on the tourney’s behalf. I’m looking to keep this positive people, Positive. It’s not standard SE we’re running, so just check the thread out and have a good time with us on Sunday.

Except for Humbag, he’s a tournament dodgin’ sack of shit, plus he sucks.

Edit- I’ll be at GW tonight around 6:45.

Lee- What do you mean chances?! Everything I do is inherently excellent. Except apparently marvel.

You can go to the 2 or 3 console tournaments that are in the area every month

Again, if anyone’s open this afternoon, swing by my pad for some games and lunch. Hit me for info. I’m off 26th and Pulaski. In the city.

GW is definitely looking like a no go for me, unless I a) grow some wings, b) suddenly decide I enjoy public transportation c) someones driving me.

And, since the Japanese > all … I’m off for some delicious udon. I heard they have that for lunch sometimes, and it too, is superior.

This is 100% truth. =P

wow howd that become such a big deal? some people like single elim, others don’t. pretty obvious no ones switching sides. its just a preference.
o and i had labriola’s 2 days in row and i don’t think you can fit that much flavor into 2 days. better to spread it out imo. real good stuff though.

Do you live by there? We should meet up with you next time. Last time we went, the burgers were a little iffy. They put like twice as much cheese on mine and Eric said his was a little too cheesy as well. Plus they forgot Bacon on my bros. Maybe we went on bootleg day. :-\

anyone who bought used game from gamefly, how long did it take to get it?

Single elimination
one round
30 seconds
everyone plays zangief

yeah, how is gamefly? I was thinking about tyring it because Q4 is full of new games :stuck_out_tongue:

from order date, 5 days.

Bp Amoco will now be able to justify those battle points.