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Yeah every single matchup thread says hakan vs blanka is like 6-4 hakan and imo it’s the other way around. His hitbox is huge and c.MP defeats everything he has save when he’s oiled and then at that point i do consider them to be on slightly even ground with hakan having a slight advantage. But unoiled it’s like terrible for him. On wakeup you can do insane crazy strings and he has no choice but to block all of it. he’s just so fat so every single blockstring hits and works. it’s like hitting honda without the headbutt.

The problem is that Hakan players suck and so do Blanka players.

how is that relevant to what i said. please help.

I think most here are good.

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He means that that’s why the matchup chart on e-hubs is off because it’s taking into account bad blanka players and bad hakan players

What, like Raven players don’t suck?

Pretty much everyone is terrible and terrible hakan beats terrible blanka because he gets a billion free slide punishes. People don’t actually know how to play matchups.

oh i get it. makes sense now lol.

So we should just make an utopic tier-list based in an ideal world where almost everybody knows his characters and also knows every matchup in the game?

Who should we appoint to do that? Or do we must wait before we have at least 39 Daigos or Latifs that play every 39 characters in the game and ask them what they feel each matchup is like? And if they disagree about them (and of course they will), what should we do?

In the meantime we can’t have a tier-list whatsoever, even one for the purpose of giving a loose idea what to expect in each MU? You know that EH clearly states that no tier-list is perfect or definitive, right?

There’s a difference between being slightly imperfect and being outright horribly wrong.

Ok, sure I agree with you.

By “outright horribly wrong” I think you mean a MU where there’s no space to debate, like saying Blanka vs T. Hawk is, at the very least, 6-4 for Blanka, not one that the numbers have been flutuating for quite some time, like Blanka vs Dhalsim, wich can be 6-4, 5-5 or 4-6, depending on whom you ask.

So tell me, what MU is “outright horribly wrong” there?

pretty much yes, but that wont be enough neither!
tier lists should also be seperated into skill-level!
the match-up numbers relate to players who have an equal skill and i think that pretty much fucks up every tierlist…

e.g. everybody hates blanka when they are new to sf or scrubs - so he is hightier in the noob tierlist!
but once they get better and understand the game they see his weaknesses and he gets lower and lower…
on the other hand, in the eh tierlist cody is pretty much lowtier, because he is rarely played and can only be played well if you have a deep knowledge of the game.
he is a running frametrap and a beast and i think he is a high tier char in high level play!

sooo…yes…there should be a high level tierlist!
and a middle and lowlevel list too!

Yea! There should also be a tier list of high middle and low levels all averaged together! And even an “online play” tierlist! USA style and Japan style play tierlist and maybe even a rushdown vs defensive style tierlist…too many possibilities!

Hmmm…maybe lets stick to the high level tierlists and hope the people making them are actually good.

How about avoid tierlists and look at tournament placement instead?

bah, who am i kidding. :smiley:

there is a high level tierlist? link?

Talked with a friend of mine who unlocked blanka in sfxt.

He said u can do jab into elec, though the range on elec is a little bit shorter. Neutral strong, stand jab, elec is also a combo.

He says u can still slide elec, u just have to slide really fast. Apparently if u slide really fast, the boost combo is not activated, and so the elec comes out. I wasnt sure where to post this, but this seemed as good a place as any.

He says hop seems good, and overall blanka plays a lot like sf4. He also says elec feels positive on block, but no frame data.

Gief-Gen, for starters. They list it as 7-3. It’s 4-6, maybe 5-5

that’s dumb they should have just made electricity a motion instead of rapid fire

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This plus the April 10th service pack might actually make me play this game… time to get a new beer coaster. :frowning: