Try and post some Link and TL knowledge, specifically the match-ups and Pros & Cons. Also I think Zelda is going to stay in high tier. She may have a ton of kill moves but her approach is weak, and her camping is only decent since a lot of other character’s projectiles can interrupt her. And Falco’s Bair does have good knockback, and has multiple uses, it’s just not much of a killing move.
Agreed.
EDIT:
I shifted the placings in the tiers quite a bit.
Let me just say that Pit and MK should not be higher then Marth on the list and that Pit is not number one. Both Pit and MK do worse then Marth against the top tiers and Marth himself beats them both. Snake, Falco, or Toon Link should be number 1. Maybe Zelda or Wolf. But not MK or Pit.
No fucking way.
Here are Marth’s match-ups.
Bowser - 8:2 or 7:3 Marth
Captain Falcon - 7:3 Marth
Charizard - 6:4 or 7:3 Marth
Diddy Kong - 6:4 Marth
Donkey Kong - 7:3 Marth
Falco - 5:5 Even
Fox - 5:5 Even
Game & Watch - 6:4 Marth
Ganondorf - 8:2 Marth
Ice Climbers - 6:4 Marth
Ike - 6:4 Marth
Ivysaur - 6:4 or 7:3 Marth
Jigglypuff - 7:3 Marth
King Dedede- 6:4 Dedede
Kirby- 6:4 or 7:3 Marth
Link- 5:5 or 6:4 Marth
Lucario - 5:5 or 6:4 Marth
Lucas - 6:4 Marth
Luigi - 6:4 Marth
Mario - 7:3 Marth
Marth - 5:5 Mirror Match
Meta Knight- 6:4 Marth
Ness - 6:4 Marth
Peach - 8:2 Marth
Pikachu - 6:4 Marth
Pikman & Olimar - 5:5 Even
Pit - 6:4 Marth
R.O.B. - 5:5 Even
Samus - 6:4 Marth
Sheik - 5:5 Even
Snake - 5:5 Even
Sonic - 7:3 Marth
Squirtle - 7:3 Marth
Toon Link - 5:5 Even
Wario - 6:4 Marth
Wolf- 5:5 Even
Yoshi - 8:2 Marth
Zelda - 5:5 Even
Zero Suit Samus - 6:4 or 7:3 Marth
As you can see form his match-ups he really doesn’t blatantly destroy any of the characters unless those characters just aren’t very good in the first place.
He goes even with most of the better characters.
Only has one real bad match-up from what I have seen.
Overall Marth is solid not broken. He doesn’t really rape the cast. For the most part he usually has slight advantage or goes even with his opponents.
I don’t think that Marth, Pit, or Falco is #1 in the game. They’re all really good, but they’re not Snake.
If I’m wrong, then please tell me so, but I think that Snake is borderline brokeshit.
Yea he has disjointed hitboxes some of his attacks which makes no sense at all. What the fuck hell were they thinking?
Camping with snake shuts down like half the cast.
Lobelia and Oroman are correct.
Also Lobelia is a meanie.
She makes me sad. :sad:
*inside joke.
Anyone who isn’t wearing the “Marth is hacked” glasses can easily see that Snake is in fact that cheapest motherfucker in the entire game.
QFT!
Eh, Snake is hard to deal with but I’m starting to enjoy fighting him even as Metaknight. I just have to slow my pace and really think about what I’m doing with pokes / spacing moreso than normal. Taking into accountwhere all the explosions will be / are is draining, but I’m starting to adapt to that (along with his actual up close attacks). Snake certainly has potential to be top, but at least he’s not Toki tier.
That the cracker launcher is fun to use.
I’m glad to see someone else recognizing his ridiculousness with the disjointed hitboxes that are his freaking arms and legs. This is the bull that made me hate Peach in Melee.
Oh and his Bair seems to make his ENTIRE body a disjointed hitbox for a few moments. :wtf:
Yes Snake loves using Grenades and Claymores while getting the Cracker Launcher too!:tup:
I put Pit at the top of the list, because a few people seemed to think he was number 1. But I have no problem with putting Snake up there instead, what do y’all think?
Do It!!!
Why the fuck is TL supposed to be so good?
3 awesome projectiles for zoning, great speed, small height, disjointed hitbox normals, decent faux “combos”, a great spike, several great KO moves, and a decent recovery.
Oh and he’s very agile, and can pretty much do what he wants.
Yeah, in the right hands he can control the field; not to mention you have to be a bit wary of following up combos or edge guarding him due to his aerials. (I can’t tell you how many times I jump up to finish the wily toon link before I get diared… It’s a force of habit 
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And I’m not dissing the tier list or anything, but I’m still sticking to my Lineup of Bowser/Ganon/Falco. Someone’s gotta rep the bottom tier. ('Cept for the last one; I need backup lol)
Falco? You mean Falcon?
I just actually looked at your list…
What the fuck game are you playing where Ivysaur is low tier? jesus…
Somethings on his list make no sense I agree.
All the pokemon are high tier IMO.
Cept Jiggz. She sucks. lol.
Well thank you for giving a good argument supporting her, sheesh. I’m tired of posts like this, if you disagree with a characters ranking then give some decent explanations. No ones ever really defended her, and she has a lot of exploitable weaknesses, and just doesn’t seem to stack up with the other characters.
EDIT:
Like I said before, give some explanations.
Ivysaur is probably down there. Its KO moves are pretty slow and it can get gimped pretty easy because of its poor recovery. I know Ivysaur does have some of the best damage and has great range but it also has a lot of weakness that need to be considered. Also take in mind is Ivysaur needs to spam razor leaf quite a bit during the match which causes it to get tired faster than the other pokemon.