EX Sunflower is alright but it depends on the distance between yourself and your opponent. It tends to whiff a lot for me on crouchers. Maybe it’s because of the length of the move?
EX Den is not a bad move but, I’ve found that you can stick a DP in between the last two hits of the move (the last strike before she does the knee for the wallbounce) no-one has done it to me yet. But it’s just something I look out for.
Once Lili gets in on JackX, he loses.
no she just flat out rapes the hell out of him. Nothing he can do. she gets free 40% meterless combos. He can’t seismo at all. Hk feisty rabbit to thorn gets you a free one meter near 50% combo lol.
I never said it was difficult for her to get in. All of her moves out prioritize his, so she can pressure him with almost every button and cancel into feisty to bait dp, and even if you go for the low follow up and he blocks, he is still going to have a hard time punishing it. So yeah I think this match up is like 7/3.
It’s worth noting that you can combo off HP Deo. So you could delay CADC to catch buttons and then cr.mk xx lance/ex deo.
Is anyone familiar with the Dudley or Ryu matchups? All I know atm is that you can punish dudleys machine gun blow if it isn’t the light version, and ryu’s shoryuken. I’ve been trying to adante ryu’s shoryuken, that should work nicely if I can get it.
Would be better to bait the shoryuken and punish for 450+ damage.
You aren’t you talking about being able to combo off a hp.dendro on a grounded opponent are you?
I forgot to include CH in that post, apologies, but you can combo off it on counter hit, so you could delay your CADC and catch their buttons and then cr.mk xx lance/ex de.
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Very solid vid and shows most of the things you should be generally doing as a Lili player. Sure some resets are purely character specific but the ones that aren’t are pretty much mandatory. Very good stuff.
see during the whole creation of the vid i was thinking, hey i should add parts where Lili gets blown up trying to go for these resets to enforce the fact that these resets are not 100% guaranteed.
Glad you enjoyed it. I enjoyed making it =)
Alright other Lili players I have some homework for you.
I need someone to find an optimised post launcher combo that either ends in launcher or sets up a **safe raw tag. **Minimum damage output I am expecting to break **meterless is 250, **Looking for at least 300.
Ok I can do this do you want a video for it?
I haven’t had a chance to try it yet but wouldn’t ending a post launcher in heavy languish beat or Peacock Jive give you enough space to safely raw tag? Ending a combo with a high enough Dendrobium also allows a safe raw tag since it floats the opponent before they hit the ground. I’ve never tried it post launcher, it’s usually something I do after Ex Sunflower Lance since that’s my hail mary.
Ok with the combo I have in mind I’m expecting to get at least 302 that ends in launcher meterless
I may look into other set ups for denro but her other strings that lead into a hard knock down don’t give her enough time to raw tag safely, leaving the incoming character exposed to punish is they tech roll in response to the raw tag(which they always will)
That’s true, honestly I’m not really too creative in squeezing out huge damage from raw launcher, post launcher set-ups. The only thing I could even come up with was Andante, Heavy Languish, raw launcher.
I tried Angel Knee with Xiaoyu’s launcher and no dice, that’s why I had to go with Andante instead. Doesn’t Vega’s launcher give you a little bit more time for set-ups than most?