CFJ. Wtf.

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I have not played this game yet, but it looks ok. It does not look (more than just graphics, the system as well)as good as Capcom’s past offerings, but it looks pretty good for a competitive fighter. A couple of things bother me though:

1)Some people (not on this site)bash on this game because it only has 23 characters. Which clearly proves that some people only want to have 50+ characters in their fighting games, even if it is pretty unbalanced (KOF comes to mind). I read a review once, and it said “I don’t want 4 fighters from each of the fighters. I want ALL of them!” This may not be true, but I think MVC2 started this.

2)Graphics don’t look 2004-quality (this game could/should have been made in the mid-90s)as far as I can tell. Rehashed sprites usually don’t bother me (MVC2, almost every SNK fighter, CVS2, etc. has them), but ugly-as-hell backgrounds and the fact that it looks like a cut-and-paste job annoys me. When will Capcom (and SNK)get with the times?

3)The multiple styles look good, but I am the only one that’s going to say that they should have done the styles like grooves (EX: Ryu using the SF3 or DS system)instead of limiting the characters to the style of the game they came from. It might have brought a lot of depth, but dudes here would complain about the A3 system for some reason (I don’t know why V-ism ish systems are so-called “overpowered” because I hated them. They didn’t give me the L3 supers, and I suck at comboing). The Rival Schools-esque team system looks alright, but I have the feeling I’ve seen better.

4)Almost no replayability for the PS2 version. Sad. I read that there are only three modes, 2 secret characters, and some classic BG music tunes. Damn, Capcom (and SNK)need to get with the damn times. The Xbox version is said to have Live capabilities, which means that the replay value will be endless. Nice thinking, but why don’t they work with PS2 online? It’s cheap, effective, and it could really spice up the PS2 fighter lineup. As some casual player would say “If this fighting game doesn’t have online play, then it’s going to suck and I’m not going to buy it.”

With all these things said, I’ll pass on the PS2 version and wait for the Xbox version. 'Nuff said.

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I finally played this game yesterday. I was more impressed with the Shinkuro cover art than the actual game itself. My biggest question is WHY did they give Zangief and Guy new faces? Why?

It just doesn’t feel like a Capcom game to me.

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www.omf.com

and it sucked.

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i know,some of what ya siad inkbolt were truly right.i myself,i love fighting games…so it’s like every year i have some fghting games to master,the cool can survive tell my entire life(like tekken,the best fighting game ever since T3).

CFJ,aint that bad at all…it’s way fun man,the juggle system is totally weaker than i’ve expected but still fun…by the way,yun is a very dirty charecter with some deadly combos!!! wait for me untill i play more with him and post some stuff if ya want :slight_smile:

the game slow yes,and thats one of the problems,other than then it’s fun to play with…am enjoying it :smiley:

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Next year, the Xbox port will come out.

Haha like crazydiamond, I only like the Shinkiro art done for the game. =x

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This game is just ugly. I’m going back to Tekken now that Tekken 5 is out.

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I bought it, and like it. I would have liked more characters, but they have Guy, and Ryu, and new people to learn, so it’s something…

Sure it has flaws, but the fact that they play like they did in other games is not a flaw. It was designed with specific game features in mind so that you can play certain styles against each other. SF2 Guy, or DS Alex are weird, and will more than likely end up glitchy like crazy.

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Or we could have DS Gief, with chain combos, pursuits, and 3 FABS!

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Eh. whatever other peoples problems are with the game…I like it ok so :: shrug ::

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it’s cvs3 without groove selections.

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Oh hush up. :razzy:

You’re just upset because I have the harder shell.

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My theory is that after the orignal set of capcom programmers left the company (i think from the cancelled Capcom All-Stars), so they’re missing all the talented programs that know fighting games inside out. Plus part of the development time was lost from said Capcom All-Stars, so they had less time to code it.

So how do you make a full game with half the time? Copy & Paste that shit. So they didn’t have time to rework the sprites, make new frames, make a nice UI, fun extras. My guess is that they took existing code from other fighting games, and tweaked out the bugs/unfair advantages (RC’s, red-parries, ST glitches, etc).

This may be a “learning” game for the new capcom developers, and hopefully CFE2 (if it comes), will be like the upgrade CvS2 is compared to CvS.

Note that this is the exact opposite of what Polygram is doing with GT4. They’d rather take the time to make the game as good as it can, sacificing the release date in prime christmas season for a better game. It’s not like one is better than the other. On one hand, I can’t play GT4 til next year, but I know it’ll be awesome. On the other, I can play CFE now, abet without the bells and whistles, but it’s still pretty fun! It’s really just two different approaches to please the end consumer (us). Either we bitch that the game is late, or the game isn’t good enough…pick one, cause that’s what Game studios have to do all the time.

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After playing CFJ for quite a bit I have to say, it’s good, but not good as any of the games it is made up of.

I don’t have much time to play games these days and if I want to play 3rd Strike chars 3rd Strike is a much better game, same for A3 and VS.

I just feel like this game takes some great parts and combines them into something mediocre.

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beurk , i rented it and hated it.

i’m just sick and tired of the same old gameplay and tactics(turtle with guile,etc).

please gimme something new. i don’t care about ryu and the gang anymore.
i want new characters, new moves, new systems .

that new 3d Kof was a lot more fun than this debacle.

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lol, well almost everyone dissed the shit out of SVC chaos and I think it is still doing pretty good, is it?

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im not disagreeing with that dude.
my point is, Fuckin Turtle-fest games are NO…FUN…AT…ALL.
Your shell, makes this game outright boring.

Plus, this shit game is just plain. Its totally bland.
Like someone had mentioned earlier. There is some sort of skill involved with MVC2, CVS2, AND 3S.
With this game…none is required…its just a Dumbed-down version of each of there respectable games. :tdown: :tdown: :tdown:

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no bitch no!!

you just think it suck cuz you don’t know how to be a playa in the game! if you wanna rush that shit down go be playing marvel these games be all about the pokes and turtles minds games playa mind games!

dont be hating cause you be suckin!

:tup: :tup: :xeye:

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I love how people say that those who dislike CFJ “just don’t know how to play it”. Perhaps it’s that people do know how to play it and thus can understand that it’s not terribly good.

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To whoever said we dissed the hell out of SVC, and it’s still doing well is right.

In the arcade I go to, thats all anyone plays. But thats probably because it’s the only thing TO play, the MVC2 machine is dead, no 3s, and nothing else 2-d fighter-wise. It might be a silly game, but once you get used to it, you can get some good matches in.

It also seems the SNK crowd seemed to gather to it more than the capcom boys.

EDIT: And as far as CFE goes, bah, i’ll save my money for KOF02/03, and I don’t even prefer kof over capcom.

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You presented it PERFECTLY.

Thanks. :tup:

And it is BLAND. Maybe the most BALND fighting game I have ever played out of…I don’t know. Maybe ever.

No fighter I have ever played has been this BLAND in ALL aspects…and yes I’m excluding the MKs.