Capcom X Arc System Works = Sengoku BASARA X - 4/09/08 (Arcade) 6/26/08 (PS2)

People say that for every single game that has infinites in it, even for games when you can break the infinites. Shit is just silly. Unfortunately, they do kind of ruin this game. Some of the loops are really braindead, and used for timeout, which is just not fun.

I will agree that the infinites are lame in this game, but playing without them turns this into a one character game. Mori is too powerful as is, but at least the other characters can end the round (minus bursting) in one solid hit. Mori doesn’t need his infinites, he can just keep setting up his unblockable pillar and doing resets and you die.

The infinites suck, but the game is worse off without them. So the only solution is to just not play it, which is what everyone did. I still like playing it, and kenshin is the best developed counter character in fighting games, but nobody plays this.

Man I wish capcom’d give this another shot, and with a better dev team.

I still play this game from time to time, Tadakatsu Honda owns…

actually i never felt that the problem was the dev team (yet they share the fault), it was more a problem on how they rushed the game without enough local test, that kind of errors can be only found through extensive testing, also there were a lot of problems between what was the original idea of the game, and what it ended, and basically thats the fault of capcom, not arcsys, the functional requeriments of the game changed like 4 or 6 times before they were well established, also the project wasnt taken seriously enough for both parts, capcom never saw sbx much than a derivated product from the action series, and arcsys was putting more effort and their best men in BB, so they recicled the hnk engine for sbx (wich leads to errors like the space race infinite and the wallstreet infinite), instead of sbx, and its not surprising considering that capcom and arc are still somehow competitors in the fighting market, also its ovbious that they are gonna focus more in their principal projects, Capcom with SF4 and ASW with BB, its not a surprise that the final product wasnt well polished, and the fact that the console release was like a month after the arcade release didnt help to the game either, the primal market of the game was the people who likes the basara series, yet they werent enough to mantain the game alive, basically because that market consist on girls who likes yaoi from the chars and casual players that arent into fighting games, and the pro players have better games to play.

i still feel that the original idea of the game could be better that what we recived instead, but for that, capcom should make a better planeation of what are the requeriments, and arc should focus more on the testing of the product

man the game seemed like it had potential,but me and my friends only played the game for like a month.the game was just to broken

just played the game . i think maeda and sanada will be my main

who is top tier ?

S: Mri Motonari, Uesugi Kenshin, Chsokabe Motochika
A: Oichi, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Sanada Yukimura
B: Maeda Keiji, Oda Nobunaga, Honda Tadakatsu
C: Date Masamune

Looks I made a good choice by mainly using Sanada Yukimura. Too bad I can’t play vs anyone.

could not believe that date is low tier … how broken is this game ?

I’m gonna get hated on for this, posting in an Arcsys thread, but seriously, there are just too many fighting games like this. Aesthetically, I mean. There’s just too much shit going on. This don’t look like no fight I ever seen. The game could be solid as hell but the style is very off putting to me. Just massive explosions and lasers and robots and random unexplainable shit. Gets tired after a while.

I know Street Fighter isn’t exactly ‘realistic’ either but at least someone passing by can appreciate that these dudes are beating the crap out of each other. Arcsys games just looks like a fireworks display in Tokyo whilst two androgynous characters inexplicably fly from one side of the screen to the other, repeatedly, like pretty, big-eyed ragdolls with pristine hair on a set of violent, invisible strings.

I’m gettin’ tired of this shit.

Wait, this game is out? on what?

But think of it the other way, if it was all about space control it would resemble street fighter and no one wants to bite off street fighter now because it would get too much hate.

I would say

S+++: Mori
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A: kenshin
B: motochika, nobunaga, oichi
C: everyone else
D: masamune, maybe hanbei, honda without the super armor glitch

nobunaga and oichi are really solid if given the time to set themselves up, but are weak until they are all setup. Mori is the same way, but him setting himself up is just a matter of time until he builds enough assist meter, so he will always be setup by round 2. Hanbei I always thought was weak, but I never looked into developing the character so I don’t know.

ps2 jap import only

Broken in a bad way. You might as well play HnK. Broken. Hype. More balanced.

Sengoku Broke X

but the character desing is from capcom, also the game desing over all was the capcom idea and not asw.
and way to generalize since not GG, HNK or BB feel like fireworks with unexplicable shit going on the screen, dunno what games are you playing, but certainly are not the games of ASW

Yeah they kind of are. And to respond to your private message, “im gettin tired on people beliving that crap like sf is better, keep your opinions to yourself”;

a) This is a forum. You will find opinions expressed here other than your own

b) Read my post again. Did I say Street Fighter was better than X fighting game? Shit I didn’t mention ANY game other than Street Fighter, and even then I didn’t specify which Street Fighter. What The Hell You On Son??

All I compared was the presentation styles in a very general sense. I’m even including MvC2 in the description of just too much shit going on, although it’s not as OTT as many other fighters. Hate that shit.

Vanilla ice cream is way better than neapolitan ice cream.

Vanilla ice cream you know what to expect, and most anyone can enjoy it!

Neapolitan has way to much stuff going on for me, I mean 3 flavors in one carton, and 2 that arent vanilla? Thats outrageous! Its like, every time I go for that lil bit of vanilla, I end up getting a bit of chocolate and strawberry in with it, and it really makes me upset.

Why cant all ice cream just be vanilla?