wow so many dumbasses in this thread. japanese games are selling the most this generation, they’re games from the Wii. mario games and those wii fit/sport games are selling wayyy more than FPS. just look at vgchartz, softwares sell each month from the Wii is higher than both the xbox360 and PS3 combined. not everyone enjoy nerdy western game like fallout and shit. i swear this forum is filled with dumb scrubs and is pretty much useless, cuz real knowledge rarely get dropped here, mostly stupidity.
it also shows that no FF game has sold over 2 million copies outside of Japan aside from VII and X
And people, don’t assume this is JUST one person saying this. Virtually every other company interviewed from Japan has stated that something needs to be done. Japan can’t sustain itself entirely, with regards to the gaming industry
…Since when is 2 million copies of a game sold bad? There’s companies that would kill for those kind of sales. The moral of the story is, SE isn’t one of the people who needs to be worried about declining sales because their asses are still making plenty of cash.
Japan is far more in creative with what they do, that why in the era of “NES-PS2” japan had some great games. But once they actually got the hardware power to make the games they wanted there creativity goes to far and alienates anyone outside of there culture.
The West is far more innovative what with we do, and I think thats because of or “ADHD” type mental. And thats they we failed in the NES-PS2 era its only so much new that you can add at that time with the specs we had.
Nintendo is successful because they manage to accomplish both with there titles.
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Also gaming’s Big boom was more than a decade ago in japan if you ask me, where as with us, its just with the xbox360, wii, and ps3 has gaming actually become something that is being truly recognized as a legit and very profitable industry in the west, and everyone wants there had in the pot to create the next biggest gaming crazy.
Western gamers use to be the ones to import all kind of Japanese games, and that same niche crowd pretty much does, but the industry has blown up so much on the west that now that the number of that crowd is laughable. Also there are companies (Atlus) that pretty much serve that crowds needs.
The West is slowing getting to the point where sequels are ruining the quality of games. However the west isn’t afraid to randomly do a prequel or radical change a game in a squeal.
Capcom is taking a hint from this with DMC…
All in all the western market still has huge untapped potential so that’s where most companies will focus there man power on getting consumers.
Mario is hella overrated. Both the Galaxy games were absolutely nothing special. The only good Mario games were Super Mario World and Super Mario 64.
SMB3 would like a word with you…
Nigga you high.
mario is far from overrated its just quality material and has been for years. Out of all the MB games and spin offs there maybe like 2 or 3 thats truly just sub par.
its people like you, is the reason why there is so many shitty games. “Oh we cant have games that are fun unless there is blood and sex.” STFU with that shit. The reason why there is so many shitty games is because people buy them. Look at the sells for
shadow of the colossus
Beyond good and evil
the world ends with you
Ico
and other abstract and unique games, they dont make money. People want the same shit over and over and over again, like MW, Halo, WoW, GTA, SIMS, which are no way unique in game play or dont break any grounds from the gaming mold. People dont like to think, people dont want unique games, people are fucking idiots. And will keep buying the same shit. Thats why companys keep making boring shit
I’m at the endgame of Uncharted 2 (final boss…or what should be the final boss anyway) and while I am enjoying the game and story and all, I’m not sure what you mean by “innovative.” It’s well told and engaging, sure. Innovative? I can’t think of that much here.
A more innovative storyline game I can think of is probably…eh, I’ll just go with the most recent one I can think of: Amnesia - The Dark Descent. And even that’s not THAT innovative, just how it’s presented is pretty cool.
As far as design goes yes they are it’s fact not opinion, most of the games eastern developers come out with are just the same shit they were coming out with 10 years ago only with better graphics (which pale in comparison to the west) U.S. developers have made dozens of games this generation that just weren’t possible or even thought of back then. I’m not hating saying “lol japan” I’m just stating that the U.S is vastly superior when it comes to changing with the times. Fan service is the only thing keeping the east alive right now and eventually even the fans will want something different then what they’ve been getting so they need to start innovating like they used to.
Of course I’m only referring non wii and ds games, nintendo will always rape hard with family focused casual motion games and hardware. All other developers who have spoken out against the east are referring to the core gaming side of things only.
The only dumbass is you, learn to read before you post.
Shadow of the Colossus is awesome, Ico is awesome, WoW is shit. Halo is shit, MW is shit, GTA is shit, Sims is SHIT.
Ya ignant weaaboo.
As a total package, Uncharted is definitely innovative. It tries and succeeds in many areas and in many ways most other games would never even try to reach, even if it’s not in basic gameplay in the way that you press R1 to shoot. Sure, you’ve shot guns before, but you can shoot all the guns you want and if you still haven’t played Uncharted, then you won’t know what you’re missing.
I can’t think of many other games with a storyline as engrossing, with characters as likable, with technology so suited, with scope so epic (without shoving it down your throat), and still have an atmosphere and world be so totally believable as Uncharted 2. Games today are more than just the gameplay, we’ve gone past the age of Pitfall and Asteroids.
Most of these people haven’t even played the best Western RPGs and talkin shit. Motherfuckers talking about intellectually stimulating JRPGs. That’s some funny shit. Planescape.
Shout outs for spouting truth.
Capcom Exec and co-producer of Streetfighter 2 in interview with Sega Saturn Magazine, 1998:
“The Days when people really loved playing computers games has ended. This is mainly because of Sony. Sony has created a new era of light users who consider games to be just an everyday form of general entertainment- nothing special. The kind of games we used to see from Nintendo have gone. These are the games that children used to play, but now they don’t.”
pretty sure saying all mario games are the same is the most ignorant thing you can say, since mario sunshine, new super mario bros, mario rpgs for DS, and paper mario are nothing like the same.
One specific game doesn’t make the rest of the genre less crappy.(Same for JRPG)
The WRPG crowd today prefers Dragon Age and Mass Effect over PS:T.
Its only making money in Japan. It COULD be making more money if Western sales were close to Japans sales. And for a company to go from selling about 5-10 million units, to LESS than 2 million copies (look at the numbers…my 2 mill was generous…most are below 1 mill, or between 1-1.5), is never a good thing. You need to understand the difference between making plenty of cash, and scraping by.
Because trust me, SE doesn’t make FF games for cheap. And to have them barely scratch the 1 million sold mark in North America is a fucking laughable joke, especially when you consider Eastern games (even non RPG games) and the numbers they get.
I get over half that number ONLINE on Halo Reach during any given time of day. Don’t tell me that SE is satisfied with only moving 1 million units of FF to north america.
I wish Japan console gaming today had a shred of creativity that was shown in the PS1 era. Words from a luddite that can’t appreciate doing (and playing) something different.
fuck this east vs west argument. yea, japan has been stagnant. but so has america imo. just like how most jrpg’s star a pretty boy 17 year old with blue spikey hair and a huge ass sword, american FPS games have a “badass” caucasian guy with a steriod problem. that being said, i prefer japan made games to the west. i rather play FFXII over another typical “dark age” RPG like oblivion.