Hayato for cosmic god tier
Wolverine was actually killed before, in his team up series with Hercules. And Spiderman also beat the Hulk once. But then again, Hulk’s power is pretty much whatever the writer needs it to be at the time so he’s kind of hard to place.
Pretty sad how most on SRK know pretty much nothing about SF and Darkstalkers, despite all their clamoring for new games.
Ryu is a normal human being??? Get the fuck out of here. He’s been shown lifting HUGE boulders (Oro’s 3S ending) and shrugging off bullets like flies (that shitty SF4 anime).
Also, Morrigan didn’t beat Jedah. That’s not to say that she COULDN’T beat Jedah, but that’s simply not how the story in Vampire Savior went down. She’s still really freaking powerful.
Also, not all Darkstalkers are created equal. Felicia and Hsien-Ko are mid-tier Darkstalkers at best. Morrigan fused with Lilith is at the very top.
I don’t know much about Resident Evil though cause I’ve never played through any of the games. Seems to me in RE1, Wesker, Jill, and Chris were regular people that could be taken out by a random slow zombie and by RE5 that all seems out of whack as Chris is punching boulders and Wesker is ridiculous.
Tron is a wildcard, because you have to take into account of her technology. Gustaff is actually quite strong and the Servbots are indestructable.
So in mind:
God Tier:
Amaterasu
Near-God Tier:
Akuma
Morrigan
Ryu (Satsui no Hadou)
Firebrand
Top Superhuman Tier:
Ryu
Wesker (RE5)
Devil May Cry fucknuts
Strider Hiryu
Zero
Nemesis
Superhuman Tier:
Chun-Li
Felicia
Hsien-Ko
Chris (RE5)
Jill (RE5)
Joe
Tron (with Gustaff)
Peak Human Tier:
Spencer
Haggar
Arthur
Crimson Viper (she has no powers without her suit)
Regular Human Tier:
Chris (RE1)
Wesker (RE1)
Frank West
Jill (RE1, man was she pathetic in that game)
Phoenix Wright
Tron Bonne (no tech)
Whoa. How did he die?
Yeah but he died about 200 times before he finally beat Satan. That makes the matchup 200/1 in Satan’s favor.
Capcom
Morrigan
Amaterasu (I THINK she goes below Morrigan, because isnt the dog form she is in her sealed form or something?)
Dante
Vergil
Akuma
Wesker
Trish
Zero
Strider Hiryu
Ryu
Viewtiful Joe (it really depends. He only has his powers if hes in MovieLand, if someones filming him, or if theres a crowd watching him/people cheering him on. With his powers, hes pretty dang good.)
Spencer
Arthur/FireBrand (idk whos stronger)
Hsien-Ko
Tron (Depends on the machine shes piloting tho)
Jill Valentine
Felicia
Chris Redfield
Chun Li/C.Viper (idk whos stronger here too)
Mike Haggar
Frank West
Phoenix Wright
…for the most part I think this is right.
I cant really tier Marvel as I dont know much about it.
Wesker stronger than ZERO and Dante. Wha? e_e
Zero dies if he touches a spike. Fuck him.
Considering everything depends on the writer for the Marvel side (apart from separating the different levels like street-level to god-level) You should just put them into those different tiers based on recent appearances and say there’s no order in those tiers. I mean, the street-level superheroes group is just a clusterfuck if you think about it.
my Capcom list :
SS :
Amaterasu, Morrigan
S :
Dante, Vergil, Trish, V.Joe, Strider Hiryu, Zero.
A :
Arthur, Firebrand, Felicia, Hsien-Ko, Akuma
B :
Ryu, Wesker, Spencer
C :
Chris, Jill, Haggar, Chun-Li, C.Viper
D :
Frank West, Phoenix Wright.
I grouped the characters based around the thinking that they’d probably beat those in the group below them but not above them, leaving out possible slight gaps. Feel free to change it around.
How can anyone put hulk at anything but god tier when he get more power based off his anger, he practically can only get stronger and i doubt anyone wants to see hulk if he ever got to peak rage
Also if your gonna put taskmaster deadpool and or cap anywhere taskmaster HAS to be right there with them he has all there moves and then some plus the training to go along with it. Granted he is a GLORIFIED copy cat he was a Great Soldier before he got all there moves and he is great tactician…If im not mistaken he has never beat deadpool so he shouldnt be higher then him but he is still as good as them
He was petrified, I believe. Hercules had to get the god of death to bring him back.
Just as a note, Peter no longer has a Spider Sense, and no one knows when or if he’ll get it back.
While your list shows a lot of intellect, I gotta disagree w/ some things.
First off, Dante and Vergil are incredibly powerful. More so than Akuma. They’re for sure below Morrigan tho. Trish isnt nearly as strong as them but she is still up there.
Now if this was Shin Akuma, well that’d be a different story…
Also, “Evil Ryu” with Satsui No Hado is actually weaker than Third Strike Ryu, where he is more like Gouken and has surpassed SnH. He tells it to Akuma in their 3S Rival Battle.
Oh, Wesker is stronger than Ryu. While Ryu can dodge and shrug off bullets, so can Wesker, but Wesker can teleport, has a huge arsenal of weaponry that doesnt weigh him down, can regenerate, and of course the Uroburous. Plus, him coming back to life multiple times, AND he didnt die at the end of RE5 shows something about his longevity… Ryu on the other hand, well hes got a lot of experience fighting but not nearly as much in actual combat.
Also, just wondering on your reasoning for Arthur being so low and for being lower than Firebrand. Firebrand is a hero Red Arremer, but hes still an Arremer nonetheless, and Arthur killed a million of those on his quest to beat Satan. Along with all the other bad guys, id for sure put Arthur above those like Haggar, Jill, Chris, Felicia, etc.
Wesker is stronger than Zero. Not Dante tho.
Viper shouldn’t be on par with Chun or Haggar. She’s the equivalent of a syndicate henchwoman. She’s a decent fighter with a bunch of gadgets to excel her fighting ability. She doesn’t train or perform in any of the strength building exercises (like wrestling for example) that the other SFs do. She does a job, then goes home to be with her kid. She isn’t like Chun, who was the strongest woman in the world for a while, or Haggar, who beat up hordes of punks, including most of the Andore family. These two are legendary, while Viper is temporary. She strictly a businesswoman.
shuma gorath in comics: #1
shuma gorath in mvc3: HYAAAAPPAAAARRRRR… 3 hours later… MYSTI…C…RAAA…YYYY…YYYY… 2 hours of badboy taunting later…
Thing is, Id have to put Haggar below Viper. Haggar is what, like 50-60 now? Wasnt he like 40 when Final Fight 1 happened? He hasnt fought seriously in quite a while, and even then he hasnt had to deal with electric or fire powers. As for Chun vs Viper, Im really not sure who takes that one. but I can give it up to Chun there.
The capcom ones are interesting. Marvel is too much of a crapshoot though, character strength being largely dependent on who happens to be writing that particular comic. Plus basically all the villainous characters are usually heavily underwritten…
How famous they are or what their particular job or toolset is isn’t really a factor. It doesn’t change that she’s apparently really good at her job with really good tech.
Fair enough. I don’t know shit about DMC, nor do I care, so I will grant that you are most likely correct about anything regarding Dante and Vergil.
Canonically, this is no such character as “Shin Akuma”. Akuma IS Shin Akuma, simply when he’s actually fighting at his max strength, against an opponent he feels is actually worthy of it. That’s why in the games you can only fight as a boss and in certain conditions.
Ryu does get a boost in the SF3 series, but I don’t think it’s enough to say he really has “surpassed” himself. As far as I know, in the original Japanese Ryu doesn’t tell Akuma that he has “surpassed” the Satsu no Hadou yet, but something more like that he has completely rejected it, and that in the long run he’ll become stronger than he had given into it.
The SnH is the “Dark Side”. It automatically gives you power but it limits you to a certain ceiling. Evil Ryu is Ryu at that ceiling. From SF3 on, Ryu is on path rejecting the “Dark Side” and going toward his greatest potential.
Arthur is that low because EVERYTHING KILLS HIM ONE HIT without his armor. You don’t fight Red Arremers in that game as much as you run away and simply try to survive.
The reason the games are supposed to be so incredibly hard is BECAUSE Arthur is intentionally supposed to be slow and weak, compared to other 2D platforming heroes at the time.
so arthur is low because he’s bad in his game? might as well say C.Viper is god tier cause she’s top tier in SF4.
I dont really like DMC either. I just like to know how strong Capcom characters are.
About the Shin Akuma thing. while it is Akuma at his max strength, its also him after he has gained control over the SnH and the Shun Goku Satsu. IE he cant be killed/succumb to its power by using it anymore. thats why Shin Akuma is stronger than Oni- Oni is Akuma if he succumbed to the the SnH instead of controlling it.
Well, I took the english translation. So I can see you point on how perhaps Evil Ryu is stronger at the moment compared to 3S Ryu.
Well, but is it really fair to compare canon to how someone plays in the game? Thats kinda like saying Zero is weak because he dies in one hit from a spike, or that Dan is stronger than Ken because I beat my little brother’s Ken yesterday in Alpha 2.