Arthur goes to hell and kicks Satan’s ass on a literally regular basis, and all he has to do it with is medieval armor and medieval weapons. While he does get owned by Red Arremer from time to time, he should definitely not be near the bottom of the list, and should be as high if not higher than Dante and Vergil.
Spencer’s my boy, but I can’t justify putting him even in the middle of the list. He would kick the asses of anybody that doesn’t have superpowers, but unless you count Hitler, he’s never fought or beaten anybody with occult/superpowers.
I always thought it was his arms that went faster than the speed of sound creating a traveling sonic boom when performing “Sonic Boom”. I mean those things are slow as hell in the game.
Super nerd here. On tapatalk ATM but rest assured I’ll have a complete breakdown tonight. As a teaser though Dormammu is far far faaaar more powerful than people seem to be thinking. Aside from battling Odin to a draw in a formal game of chess he has manipulated much of Earth’s history starting with the fires of London in 1666. Responsible for the creation of Satannish and bested Eternity with the help of his sister Umar. The issue with Dormammu is that his power is strongest where he has influence or ties with the Dark Dimension and can’t always adapt to unfamiliar attacks such as those from his run-in with the 31st century Guardians of the Galaxy.
More to come with a complete canonical breakdown later.
well, Everybody’s saying Dormammu is the second most powerful person in the game (after Shuma Gorath), so they’re not underestimating him all THAT much… I should note that the 31st century version was ‘doubled’ being the Dormammu’s from 2 different realities merged. Still in that form, he beat Strange, Phoenix, AND the guardians all at the same time.
Yea, though IIRC he was also outside of the Dark Dimension limiting his and his counterparts initial power, so he could be that powerful in his home realm at all times.
Also I didn’t read the first few pages, just the first few lists I saw had him ranked rather far down. Usually below Dr. Strange which baffled me.
Typing up the list now though for later posting, keep in mind I’m not going to be basing it on potential/theoretical only shown or canonical limitations. Especially since, based on theoretical/potential power Magneto would be near the top.
heh, be ready for some complaints no matter what A new list is always cool tho’, I gave up on mine because there are too many ‘too close to really tell’ people
Guile’s Sonic Boom was made slow on purpose in-game for his game play archetype, and has nothing to do with the actual facts behind the Sonic Boom. What Sagatryu posted pertains to the Sonic Boom projectile itself, not his arms.
That faq Sagatryu posted says the following: The sonic boom is actually created by using ki. Nash will concentrate his ki into his hand, arm or limb and thrusts it at a speed faster than sound.
So they’re talking about the arms (or in Charlie/Nash’s case, arm/limb) moving at the speed of sound. Not the projectile.
That doesn’t mean the projectile isn’t traveling at a greater speed then the arms. This isn’t just the only source that was noted before mind you, I’ve actually asked within the other SF thread which pertains directly to the canonical storyline of SF and it was noted somewhere within the 10 million pages of information (I’m not going to look it up directly, it was years ago, and if you want to know, you can simply ask within that thread, and the information can be brought back up for you). Guile/Charlie’s Sonic Boom has been properly noted and gauged, unlike the likes of other SF characters projectiles which were difficult to do because their is nothing irl which they can be set next too…ex: Ryu’s Hadouken. It’s not just Guile’s/Charlie’s arms generating enough force to create that, the projectile is that fast.
SF projectiles travel at firearm speed in the world of SF, this is evident when they actually make the projectiles to act like their real counterparts (Ryu vs Gouki anime trailer, to where Gouki’s projectiles travel so fast that you basically only see the impact it would create on the ground by Ryu).
I’m just playing devil’s advocate here, but if you could say that Guile’s Sonic Boom was made slow on purpose in-game for his game play archetype, and has nothing to do with the actual facts behind the Sonic Boom. then couldn’t I say that
SF projectiles were made fast on purpose in the animes for theatrical purposes, and has nothing to do with the actual facts behind the projectiles.
What is the real SF world? Is it the games? Is it the animes? Is it the comics?
In general SF canon comes from ALL materials that don’t cause conflicts with the beginning of the latest game. Similarly, the endings of one game can be considered canon as long as they don’t have massive conflicts with another. For example, almost everyone in SF4 has canonical endings since they don’t have any conflict with one another (mostly thanks to Seth and his 500 clones). This would also extend to animes and comics too.
Using that logic, for example, one can dismiss the Udon SF2 series as canon, since the dolls are freed and Akuma kills Bison, these events conflict with the official SF4 anime (and the aftermath videos).
Oh yea, let’s just agree that sonic boom (the projectile) is canonically a very fast projectile, and not spend 2 pages arguing whether it goes 299m/s or 300m/s.
There’s already a group of characters substantially beyond Gods though, anyways ‘figuring out a one time trick with months or years of planning’ is kind of beyond the scope of discussion.
Let me try it this way, ‘can beat x’ is pretty much out, because thats again all up to the writers. Dr. Strange beat Shuma Gorath, but he’s in no way as powerful.
A new list is always cool tho’, I gave up on mine because there are too many ‘too close to really tell’ people 
