Cammy Combo/Tech Thread: Target Confirmed!

Cipher · February 10, 2016, 4:00am

Welcome to Cammys Combo and Tech Thread
Here you will find a list of Combos for Cammy.
Below the Combos you will find tech to level your gameplay up.
I will try to add every usefull Combo for her.And as much Tech as possible too.
Have fun discussing. Maybe you can find characterspecific Combos or Setups and Oki.

Informations you might have to know to understand the Combos:

->= Link. You connect one Normal with another. Works only if the move you did has enough frameadvantage to link into other moves.
xx = Cancel. This means that you cancel your Normal/Special into a Special/CA Move.
-CC = Crush Counter. In general a counter that leaves the opponent open for a long time.
-CH = Counterhit. You hit the opponent the moment he want’s to do a move.
CA = Critical Art. This is the name of the Super Moves in SFV
st. = standing, self explaining
cr. = crouching, self explaining
(999/999)= The first number shows the damage the Combo will deal, the second number shows the stun the Combo will deal.

Bread and Butter Combos:
cr.lk -> cr.lp xxHK Arrow (118/253)
cr.lp -> b+mp xx HK Arrow (154/293)
cr.lk -> cr.lp xx HK DP (154/280)
V-Skill -> st.hp xx HK Arrow (212/355)
V-Skill -> st.hp xx HK DP (228/ 395)
cr.lk -> cr.lp -> st.lp xx HK Arrow (141/294) /croucher only
cr.lk -> cr.lp -> st.lp xx HK DP (146/329) /croucher only

Punish Combos:
cr.mp -> cr.mp xx HK Arrow (194/310)
cr.mp -> cr.mp xx HK DP (210/350)
st.mp -> st.hp xx HK Arrow (212/355)
st.mp -> st.hp xx HK DP (228/395)
cr.lp -> TC xx HK DP (222/380)
cr.lp -> TC xx MK Arrow (195/345)
cr.mp -> b+mp xx HK Arrow (194/310) /croucher only
cr.mp -> TC xx HK DP (262/410) /croucher only
cr.mp -> TC xx MK Arrow ( 241/375) /croucher only

V-Trigger Combos:
st.mp -> st.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel -> st.hp xx Arrow -> DP (340/530)
cr.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel -> cr.mk xx Arrow -> DP (312/457)
CC st.hk -> cr.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel-> cr.mk xx Arrow -> DP (376/575)
F+hk -> cr.mp xx V-Trigger Cancel -> st.hp xx Arrow xx DP (342/485)
cr.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel -> st.hp xx Arrow -> DP (326/497)

Crush Counter Combos:
CC st.hk -> f+hk -> cr.mp xx HK Arrow( 298/455)
CC st.hk -> f+hk -> cr.mp xx HK DP (312/490)
CC st.hk -> cr.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel-> cr.mk xx Arrow -> DP (376/575)
CC st.hk(anti-air) xx DP (216/360)
CC st.hk(anti-air) xx MK Arrow (189/315)
CC st.hk(anti-air) -> cr.hk (198/315)
CC st.hk(anti-air) -> st.lp
CC st.hk-> f+hk-> cr.mp XX V-Trigger Cancel->st.hp xx arrow DP (402/597)
CC st.hk -> cr.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel-> st.hp xx Arrow -> DP (397/610)
CC st.hk -> walk forward -> st.mp, st.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel -> slight walk forward -> st.hp xx Arrow -> DP (400/637)
CC st.hk -> walk forward/dash -> TC xx L Arrow -> EX DP (371/575) Corner only

Counterhit Combos:
CH cr.mp -> st.mp -> cr.mk xx MK Arrow (229/395)
CH cr.lp -> st.mp -> cr.mk xx MK Arrow (181/359)
CH Hooligan Slide xx DP (228/360) / corner only
CH st.mp ->cr.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel ->st.hp xx Arrow -> DP (361/550)
CH st.lk -> TC xx M Arrow (222/359)
CH st.lk -> TC xx HK DP (250/394)
CH st.lk -> TC xx L Arrow -> EX DP (311/479) Corner only
CH back + mp -> st.hp xx HK Arrow (210/375)
CH back + mp -> st.hp xx HK DP (240/415)

EX Meter Combos:
TC xx EX Hooligan xx Grab (252/350)
TC xx EX Hooligan xx Cannon Strike -> HK DP (264/410)
cr.mp -> TC xx EX Hooligan throw (283/410) /croucher and corner only
cr.mp -> TC xx EX Hooligan xx Cannon Strike -> HK DP (292/460)
Hooligan Slide xx EX DP (244/330) /corner only
V-Skill -> st.hp xx EX DP (260/395) /tends to whiff
V-Trigger Cannon Strike -> st.mp -> st.hp xx Arrow -> EX DP (380/537)
EX Cannon Strike -> HK DP (168/380)
CC st.hk -> f+hk -> cr.mp xx EX Arrow (312/490)

Sidenotes:
The V-Skill BnB Combos are mainly used after either meaty V-Skills or as projektile counter, they’re pretty much useless raw unless your opponent is drunk or sleeps.
All combos can be finished with CA for extra damage. The Super deals raw 320 damage, in most Combos it scales to 80% for 256 damage. It will never do less than 50% of it’s damage, so you will allways deal at least 160 damage with it, no matter how long the Combo was.
If you want to combo into CA, use M for Combos that end with SA and H CA for Combos that end with DP.

Cipher · February 10, 2016, 5:50am

Great, well then.
I will collect the tech here. You can either post the stuff or send me a PM, I will add it later.

Whiffpunish tech:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNkvAc9keUg

Cammy “Vortex”

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UvIyNBfOKs

Frametraps

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3R6MWQSY2w

Some Cammy Stuff,including a 4f safejump

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuwJ0zlIHfM

Ririks playlist( includes everything for Cammy)

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP4iwkTL_yVg1t4JkD3Vy8GFJLsV4Doxv

Instant Air Divekick

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_QmjlU3-Y

Ririks Okis

[details=Spoiler]Some MISC. Oki setups:

TC > Hooligan
-Staple vortex, control cross up with MP and HP versions and same side with LP version.
-Divekick back to the same side for more mixups
-Razor’s edge will auto-correct.
-Regardless of follow up you can always get a safe meaty.
-Not DP safe.
TC > MK Spiral Arrow
-Sets up cross j.LK on neutral tech
-Will cross up some reversals
-Misses on no tech and back tech but you can at least get a meaty on landing.
TC > EX Hooligan CS > Neutral j.HP
-Can safejump 6 frame reversals (Ex. Cammy HK DP)
EX CS (TK or regular are fine) > Neutral Jump j.HP
-This can safejump some reversals but has a lot of trouble with 4 frame or faster.
-You can for sure neutral empty jump and land c.LP/c.LK to meaty.
DP
-You get no oki midscreen :’/
-Corner, you get to walk up and perform any meaty of choice.
-You can cross up j.LK in the corner which can cross up some DPs.
Spiral Arrow
-Anywhere you get to walk up and get any meaty of choice.
-Midscreen after HK Spiral Arrow, tap back and then jump forward j.LK for cross up.
-Midscreen after EX Spiral Arrow, jump forward j.LK for cross up.
-You can cross up j.LK in the corner which can cross up some DPs.
-HP Hooligan to cross to the other side.
Midscreen Backthrow vs Neutral Tech
-MK Spiral Arrow can meaty vs neutral tech but is unsafe on block.
-Dash up c.MK is your best option without taking a major risk but its not a real meaty.
-Alternatively you can tap forward a bit and then LK Spiral Arrow to get a safe spiral arrow, but this also isn’t a real meaty.
Midscreen Forwardthrow vs Neutral Tech
-LK Spiral Arrow can meaty vs neutral tech but is unsafe on block.
Corner Forward Throw vs Neutral Tech
-Slight Delay s.HP/walk a bit s.MP are good
Post-Super Arts > Spiral Arrow LK/MK > c.LP meaty
CC c.HK > Dash Up c.LP whiff > neutral jump + whatever button
-Safejump vs 4 Frame DPs

Other neat things I found:
-s.LK has VERY little knock back. From point blank you can do s.LK and you will still be in range for a throw. s.LK > Throw without any walking is really good tick throw.
-s.LK and s.LP both hit crouching opponents which is a first for Cammy (I think)
-Good way to bait throw techs is just to use Hooligan Grab. ex. s.LP > Hooligan > Grab to beat their tech attempt like a god. But otherwise just frame trapping is easier.[/details]

OKi against all 3 wakeup Options:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGGZ8c-k9qg

Throwtech tech:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkOu1P3EdIk

Corner Setup after MK Arrow:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eujkNOEmlg

Framegaps for Frametraps from Necrotrophic:

[details=Spoiler]
We need more,could someone send me a full list with all possible framegaps pls?
3 frames
st.lp cr.mp

4 frames
cr.lp cr.mp

5 frames:
cr.lp stmp

6 frames:
cr.lp cr.mk

7 frames:
st.lp st.hk

8 frames:
cr.lp st.hk[/details]

Leandro Joses “How to punish character X” Playlist:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVROiBMTaPeBK-0sV30i_hDqzAmX19oZy&v=iMiQlnKyAt8

Instant Overhead and Fuzzy Guard:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdNnmLYiP_s

Easts Meatys for normal quickrise:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P-TSslErHw

Easts Meatys for backrise:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgE82h58S30

Mixup tutorial:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmMhEhn-x2s

EX Hooligan vs untrue fireball blockstrings:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUInwdDPPEM

Anti-Jump Throwtech BS:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlZr0S-QFIg

Our CA has 3f startup:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O4yPD0HDNQ

Tweet with all Knockdown framedata:

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https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734485939263672320
https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734486562302464000
https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734487772413583360
https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734488648616316928
https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734489921985990656
https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734490545939042304
https://twitter.com/Mike_L_Na/status/734495384324571136

Cammy Stuff V2:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZj2yXXodOQ

Easts Spiral Arrow Set-ups:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhkoJbhvZKE

V-Skill crossup tutorial:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugJpQOfrJI4

Optimasation:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNUcjShyjAA

Meaty MK divekick,after LK SA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNh0EpvSqE8

Cipher · February 10, 2016, 5:50am

reserved

Cipher · February 10, 2016, 5:50am

And just in case.
reserved.

BowerTowerUK · February 10, 2016, 7:42pm

Well for basics Bafael’s post is pretty good, I have a few notes on the video though.

https://youtu.be/EVa-3iHSvEI

pastebin.com

http://pastebin.com/raw/AG0Q4546

Anti airs:

Cannon spike - I can't actually find a difference between the versions, besides startup and range. They all seem to be invincible and do the same damage. LK works from surprisingly close and HK works from surprisingly far. All versions can be cancelled into HK super. This is her best anti air.
st. HK - this beats jump attacks clean, and carries less risk from far away than a HK cannon spike (which might whiff if they don't extend a limb). Not as rewarding, more specific to time. Up close you can potentially get a crush counter which gives you a nice free uppercut, better damage than the uppercut alone.
Jump back MP(/LP/LK) - Very quick, nice hitbox, good for very close jumps. Cammy has no air throw in this build, I thought she had one?

Cammy's LK cannon spike is fast enough to beat safe jumps, if any are ever found.


Punish combos:

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Notes on standing HK crush counter in to V-Trigger as a reversal specific punish. Walk forward cr HP xx V-Trigger, st HP xx… I like better than dash back strong xx…

Notes on standing HK at mid-screen. I managed to crush counter a Bison several times in the same match, he tried from long range dash in to his dwn-fwrd HP and st HK. The max punish at this range is just MK/HK spiral arrow. CC st HK xx V-trigger dash stHP/crMK should work at that range.

I guess most of the combos should work when the game launches. Now’s just waiting on release day to test.

Yunity · February 11, 2016, 12:51am

Probably should have a standard link library as well as normal counter hit link library.

E.g.

Standard Links Library:

St. Mp, st. Fp
Vt spiral arrow, vt canon spike
Etc…

Normal Counter Hit Links Library:

Cr. Jp, b.mp
Etc…

Cipher · February 11, 2016, 5:40am

Guys, wait for the release. I will hit the lab before I will start playing and try a bit. I WILL NOT PUT BETA COMBOS IN!
Just for the simple reason that they might not work, have different damage/stun or similar things.

Still 5 days to go.

Cipher · February 16, 2016, 11:27am

I did some work.

Yunity · February 16, 2016, 11:54am

Does cr.lp, b+mp xx st. Hk xx ex hooligan>k, dp/ex dp Still work?

Cipher · February 16, 2016, 12:08pm

I didn’t get it to work. On the other hand I never did this before, so it might just me fucking the timing up.

Sareturu · February 16, 2016, 12:22pm

Yea, still works. Its highly meter wasteful, though.
Ending it with simply targetcombo - dp is just 30 dmg less, for no meter.

Edit: Although, it DOES look flashy as fuck

Renderino · February 16, 2016, 3:17pm

CC st.hk -> walk forward -> st.hp xx V-Trigger Cancel -> slight walk forward -> st.mp -> st.hp xx Arrow -> DP
396 damage
632 stun
works on everyone standing

Ramma · February 16, 2016, 3:45pm

cross up j. LK can combo into st. LP if done low enough, so you can combo st. LP into her target combo. At least it’s something.

The-Olympian · February 16, 2016, 3:46pm

Cc shk f hk crmp vt sthp xx arrow , dp. Still higher damage at 402 stun is lower tho 597.

Lol max range stmk vt links into super directly. No need ch. might lead to nice setups using vt strikes /

Ramma · February 16, 2016, 4:13pm

st. LP x3 xx Special Works on crouchers as well.

The-Olympian · February 16, 2016, 4:17pm

Setup:

After arrow knockdown:

vs normal quickstand: immediate lp hooligan (cancel later into strike/grab) will force whiff reversals and they auto correct in the wrong direction. You can either strike them into the ground or cancel the hooligan early to land and fully punish. Some reversals u can hooligan grab while they are still in mid air.
back roll recover: use mp hooligan it would replicate the above scenario.

I will continue testing … It works on anything above 3frames reversals.

Ramma · February 16, 2016, 4:37pm

Dive Kick after EX Razor Edge Slicer will cause Ryu’s DPs to whiff at the very least.

What do you mean by cancel the hooligan early?

The-Olympian · February 16, 2016, 4:49pm

Reminds me of how we used to force wrong input or force wrong reversal directions in sf4 hahaha.

Basically after arrow go for immediate lp/mp hooligan and set wakeup dps. And watch them fly in the wrong direction with u. Hhaha depends on the char and reversal u can strike or grab. Or cancel the hooligan into whiff strike and land then punish with cc sthk

carups · February 16, 2016, 5:01pm

You mean waiting until the hooligan crosses up and then using the divekick to go back to the original side thus making the reversal whiff? Does this hit the opponent if they do nothing or you just whiff?
Making people DP towards the sky or eat a setup was the funniest part of sf4 Cammy. I’ll love if this is back in.

Aquafis · February 16, 2016, 6:04pm

The hooligan itself is what makes the reversal wiff because they end up dping the wrong way. Depending on how it happens the dive kick can hit them out of the air or just wiff and make you reach the ground faster. There are times that you can air throw people out of their reversal and you can also just wiff the air grab and land if you feel like it.