My problem is not with my playing, nor with my friend’s playing, but my friend’s attitude. The guy is off his rocker when it comes to SSF4. We have over 300+ Endless matches played, and despite the fact that, give or take, we are even in wins, the kid complains over everything.
“Look at my fucking jabs not coming out!”
“Oh that’s bullshit how that Ultra goes through fireballs!”
“What the fuck why can’t I block!?”
All complaints he throws at me daily. Whenever I say, link together a couple of jabs into a DP, he complains about not being able to attack. He complains about juggles, ultras, trades, everything. One I despise is whenever he does a risky move and I respond with a punish, he flips out and yells about how he kept holding back.
He also rushes into things. He never sits on a win, he never baits, he never plays footsies. He’s not the worst player in the world, but he’s probably a free win to most people on here.
I’m getting sick and tired of it, SRK, but he is the only friend I have that plays SSF4. How do I explain to him what he’s doing wrong, why I have a frame advantage, why he can’t block when I punish him, etc.
If you explain to him these things before/after/during, no matter how simple you lay it out to him and he is still hostile towards what you do or certain things in the game then he is not a fan of competitive fighters.
But if you aren’t explaining this and just sitting back and shrugging, then it’s really on you. Simply ask him “Do you want to get better at this game?” If he says yes, shut him up and teach him what you know so you can start playing on the same level.
Some people just get really angry when they play competitive games. I had a friend like this, and nothing I did would calm him down short of letting him win, but that’s just no fun.
For example, my friend and I used to play smash bros. melee all the time, and I was much better than him, so if I used a character I was good with, I’d destroy him and he’d throw controllers and complain about how cheap the game was. I started using terrible characters to make him stop complaining about cheapness, and that’d work when I sucked with them and he won once in a while, but if I got good with a terrible character like Game and Watch, he’d go right back to complaining how I was using cheap characters and moves, etc.
Sorry, I don’t think there’s much you can do. He probably knows it’s not because of unfair game mechanics, but gets frustrated and needs to complain about something.
I try, but I’m not very good at defining things on the fly. And in the heat of the match, a lecture on frame traps is easier said than done.
@Konkrete: This is more or less the same vibe I get, except when I play as random, he complains about how I can beat him with characters I never play as.
As I said, he’s not so much bad as he is frustrated. He knows some basic stuff, and can pull off some combos I have trouble with. He’s not a complete noob, but I need to know some of the more technical things like frame advantage so I can tell him why my jab connected while his did not.
Of course, this could always be the lag on Xbox, as I rarely get the same reaction offline. Except when I win a couple in a row.
I have a friend just like yours. He has toned down the attitude, but still blames a multitude of things other than himself when he loses at fighting games. Although I find it fun when he blames stuff when I beat him (means I’m getting under his skin and out thinking him) it seems limiting. So you got one kindred spirit out there.
I hate to admit it but i was actually one of these players and the only thing i was doing wrong was being a sore loser! I changed my attitude as my pals didnt want to play me anymore and i realised i was losing out! Just play other people online and he may realise hes losing out also???
I’m laughing, but I shouldn’t be. This is not funny. That attitude is pure scrubdum at its purest form. The problem is, he’s your friend and you don’t want to hurt his feelings. Understandable.
But he’s going to have to realize sooner or later that the game was not created with his best interests in mind. He needs to learn the basic fundamental game mechanics that govern Street Fighter, otherwise, as mentioned above, he will always be a scrub forever.
You may need to educate him (although difficult) about things that he should/should not do, things that will happen, and what he should expect in a match. Anytime a player says “How does that ultra go through fireballs” you know that player is an elite scrub4lyfe. Or maybe you should do what my brother did for me. He taught me about the game after we played it, but not during it. He told me about stuff that I never understood when I first started (cross-ups, negative edging, invincibility, starting combos with shorts/jabs), and I was quickly directed here to learn more.
Case and Point: You can take a scrub to a well, but you cant make him think.
LOL @ Poptags08, its a fair point, some people unfortunately just dont understand the basics of the game… eg: Dragonpunching a blocking opponent on there wake up, the opponent WILL block and YOU will be punished by a better player! If that makes sense! lol!
If he wants to get better he is probably going to have to eat some humble pie!
He’s unarguably my best friend, And we play all types of games together. But while we can play FPS’ like Call of Duty without promblems(Except for occasional headshot-stealing), We cannot seem to agree on fighting game skill. I am without a doubt a serious Fighting game player, I’ve spent more time in practice then I care to think about. Him on the other hand, Is used to instant gratification. when I first got the game, He applied sheer button mashing. But once I realized how to you know, block, The win loss records began to go inverse.
When I was bit younger, I was the exact same way. Not all of the time, but when I lost my temper, it was bad.
I couldn’t handle losing and I couldn’t control my temper. I couldn’t concentrate and my play would suffer once I’m on tilt, but worst of all, I was no fun to play Street Fighter with. This kind of attitude sucked the fun out of the game not just for me but the people around me. Then when I saw another friend (who was the same way, but even worse than me) and how he behaved, I realized what I looked/sounded/acted like and felt terrible about it.
Now, I look back I understand why: It is a superiority complex. Nothing more, nothing less. The reason your friend behaves the way that he does is because he cannot accept the fact that he was being outplayed and outsmarted by another person. He does not give you enough respect as someone who should be beating him at a competitive game. His attitude is: If he was beaten, it can’t possibly be because he was the inferior player, so it must be because of external forces outside of his control (luck, joystick/buttons, flawed game mechanics and design). He won’t try to learn from his loss and improve from himself, because his defense mechanism makes him reluctant to accept that his failure was his own fault and that he needs to get better at this game. A person who has this attitude will either lash out in a fit of anger or sulk in a lump self-pity. In your friend’s case: anger.
First of all, there’s no point in educating him about the mechanics of the game. There’s a good chance he already knows or can learn about it if he really wants to. He just needed something to complain about and blame the loss on, even if the complaint is completely ridiculous. Teaching him about the game will fall on deaf ears.
What he needs is to realize how he’s behaving and a friend to bitch him out for it. In your friend’s defense, I don’t think he realizes. You should just be upfront and tell him.
-You’re acting like a child over a video game.
-It’s seriously no fun when you act this way.
-If you can’t take losing a game to me, you must not think very much of me.
-If you keep doing this, I don’t want to play with you anymore.
He might respond negatively at first, but hopefully he’ll realize what he’s doing and eventually cut it out. The only way to improve is to accept that you have room to improve…and I’m talking about life and not Street Fighter.