C3- The Rebirth results(9/22/07)

Hav posting:

I disagree.

It will cost more to enter a tournament… sure. The idea, however, is to draw players from out of state to come down and compete. That benefits everyone. It’s more fun, there’s a higher level of play to be enjoyed, and we can all get better. If it were just us going against each other, there’d really be no point in having tournaments. We could all just go to somebody’s house and save money.

Monetarily… come on. It’s $5 more, over the course of one month.

We’re not doing weeklies or even bi-weeklies. We’re asking you guys to save up $5 from September 22, 2007 until October 20, 2007. I really don’t think that’s too much. Pretty much any other hobby you could choose to pursue is much more expensive than that.

If it’s really that bad, we won’t change it, but $5 for a monthly tournament really doesn’t seem like a lot.

As for the prize structure… if we’re not coming out for the money, then why does it matter? If the structure drives competition, and brings out different players, I think it’s good.

But whatever. We’re doing all of this for you guys, so if it’s really an issue, let us know.

I do want to see what the entire community thinks about this though. I don’t want to confuse the loud for the majority, so we’ll keep the forum open on this. Just try to take all the factors into account.

EDIT- Also, just a note, Smash runs $10 tournaments every month at C3. People still come out. People play doubles and singles. They’re paying $28 to play one game.

95 Smash players on Saturday knew they had no chance of winning any money. They still played.

All of the arguments about how raising the entry fee will hurt turnout are all predicated on the notion that SF players are just cheap. That’s it. There’s no other argument, really.

If that’s what it is, and there’s a real outcry, we won’t change it. Let’s talk about the real issue here though.

Well its not $5 more its $5 * number of games you enter, which some people play alot of the games and it can add up. Also people tend to play whats in tournament, if they’re limited from entering for games they’re marginal in then they often stop playing casual too, which is not good for the scene. Personally I don’t care, if I feel like entering a tournament $5 isnt going to stop me, but not everyone feels the same. Also I do agree with you that $10 is more condusive to bringing out of state players in(though lower turnouts drive people away too, not sure what the better balance is) but visiting top players only is really beneficial to the top 5 or so area players, dunno what ends up being the right solution.

EDIT: Actually I think the way you did it for october is probably optimal, CvS and 3s at 10 probably works.

On a different note, B I live right by erick, seems like you invaded his comp so if you are down here/have room in your car can you pick me up?

SF COMMUNITY ARE JEWISH. Thats why the US will never progress in capcom games.

Are you a chinese jew? Thats pretty fucking awesome

Dave!!! we need you!!!

HOT JUICY BURGERS!!!

ninja edit: smash players dont have any real money of their own. it costs their parents $28 to get rid of their kids for a whole day so they could have a nice peaceful saturday all to themselves.

ninja edit HOT JUICY BURGER!!!

lolz if i was a jew i would lose alot more. sorry to disappoint you.

^uh?

anyway, i dont think the money is anything but that. i dont think it necessarily motivates MOST players to get better, or really would get that many more people to come to the tournaments. money isn’t (and shouldn’t be, imo) the main motivator to get better for most of the community, which is what these tourneys are aimed to appeal to.

:sad:

Asian people are racist yo, we gotta settle this with China vs Hebrews 2: Buddha vs Yahweh

And by we, I mean the jews.

Guilty Gear should be fine. Just six people leaving out of the 22ish regulars. Maybe even more people will enter to try and sneak in to top 3.

tourney was mad chill and fun. easily one of the best c3’s. more xmen is always fun. i could play that all day. gs to magman in some xvsf casuals. u got a nice gambit. u actually know how to use him. i like it. nintendo coming along nicely. i like it.

also buddah had a big ego. unlike kimmiks, btw.

also also, didn’t we just lower the $5 recently and just now get like 30+ for 3s. if $5 is good enough for our best 3s player(khang) then its fine by me.

if its money u guys yearn for just play more poker.

HOT JUICY BURGER!!!

how about this: considering that the out of towners (for 3S and CVS2 at least) don’t really come down EVERY MONTH, we wouldn’t need to raise the price to $10 EVERY MONTH. we could declare certain months (based off other tournament dates [aka no conflicts] and such) to be more suitable for out of towners to drop down, and have those tournaments be $10. for the rest of the tournaments, we consider them LOCAL MONTHLIES, thus keeping them at $5. so in essence, you’re not really saving up $5 every month, but every 3-5 months. i think that’s a fair compromise.

I like this.

Six Chinese people have won Nobel Prizes in history; with 1/1000 the number of people, 173 Jews have won Nobel Prizes. Boom!

Anyway, Eric, I think that’s a fine idea.

david: eric could never be as smart to come up with such ideas! your mix-up has caused me great sorrow at the mere thought of me tossing ice cubes during drunken stupor.

they trying to compensate for that thing that happened in the 1940’s to the Jews. I think it was called genocide. :sad:

Who the crap is this exodus guy?

Pretty sure he’s Marneto.

This tournament sounded like fun. Congrats to those who won.

Where have I heard this before?

Fucking hell at my supers that didn’t come out when they would have saved my ass, fuck.

Had plenty fun, thanks guys!