Fierce Feint.
QCB + Fp~Fp.Mp (Mp.Lp)
So, after the fp.mp cancel I do just do the ultra right?
Make the feint PART of the ultra. Do the focus, dash, cr.hp, qcb hp, qcf PPP(feint), qcf PPP(Ultra)
Rythm for the button hits should be
Ta ta, ta ta.
And of course you can just use 2 punches to feint but it might be easier to use all 3 for right now.
^^^ That way works better if you’re just learning the fierce feint confirms.
Although, in training mode, when practicing HC and specifically FFF confirms, I did trial 3 to help mix-up my confirms, and the timing isn’t as strict as you think, there’s a pretty big window to mash out that QCFx2.
I’m trying it out right now and I can’t seem to get the cancel from the qcb. hp to come out. This is pretty rough…
The trick is to get the timing right on the PP or PPP for the fient. If you try to just do a standing hp.thunder knuckle feint you have to be super fast with it. But because you can combo into it from the cr.hp, you just have to wait until the point where the cr.hp cancels into the thunder knuckle to feint. Its basically a split second pause but its still a pause.
Just try doing cr.hp into hp tk feint a few times by itself without the focus attack until you understand the strange timing.
It’s basically a FFF, except you’ll do a qcf motion + PPP in order to feint the TK. And right after that a second qcf motion + PPP.
If you can’t FFF learn it, because it’s a big part of Viper’s game, and you’ll need it in the fifth trial. I use negative edge to TK, I’d say it’s the least complicated manner to feint out of it.
(I personally did Focus > cr.hp > tk feint > cr.hp > Ex Seimso > sjc > tk mp > Ultra, for fun)
I guess the only thing to do is keep practicing, because I can do the first 3 parts of the combo just fine, I’ll do the ultra and Dan still blocks. I’ve tried doing a m.tk cancel but it still won’t connect. I appreciate the advice so far though guys, because it’s helped a lot.
If Dan is blocking you’re just doing it too slow. Make sure that when you start the Ultra that you can’t see Dan’s face when the Ultra starts. If he’s bending his head down and you can see nothing but his hair that means you’re close to getting it right. If he is leaning back or you can see his face that means you’re too slow.
Token, you need to be doing a HP TK feint. Ive never really tried to do it with MP so I dont know if its possible, but using HP TK will get you more time to pull out the ultra.
Ah, ok. I thought there was something up with what I was pressing. I’ll try it this way sometime tomorrow. Thanks again man.
hi,all, i’m new to this forum…after reading most of the help/tips here, i was still stuck in hard #3… i did until the high jump and it was highlighted but i can’t pull off the ultra after hours of trying…sometimes i pull off the super…hope anyone can advise me…thanks.
Yeah trial mode makes the combo more difficult to do because you have infinite super meter. Meaning if you screw up hitting 3 buttons together even slightly you’re going to get the super instead. Ain’t really much more advice to give you other than to do it fast as hell. It’s a 1 frame link so just do it fast until you get it. Try as hard as you can to get the ultra in before Viper takes off to super jump.
Usually if you are getting the super, you are doing the ultra too quickly, or just incorrectly (not ending in up forward). If you are getting a super jump, you are doing it too late.
Trying out hard trial 5 last night for 15 minutes. I can get the fff down but working on connecting it with ex seismo. Hopefully after that I won’t have problems connecting the HJC BK to ultra.
So now, after doing a h.tk cancel I keep on getting an EX seismo instead of ultra when I cancel with PPP. This is killing me. :crybaby:
wow it took me an hour and half straight of trying her hard trial 5 to actually get it down. I had a lot of trouble connecting fff to ex seismo as the stupid shortcuts count my inputs as a super. A good tip from a fellow SRKer was to moving the stick to neutral after the second c.fp then doing the ex seismo, which helped a lot. Most frustrating part is when you’re up for the burst time but you get super excited and you miss-time it so it whiffs or a ex seismo comes out instead =/ Happened to me like ten times before finally hitting it. I’m just happy im done with it lol.
Finally finished hard trial 2. I even pulled it off using the FFF method. Man it feels so good to have finished it!
Now time for number 3.
I tried the trials again for the first time since I first completed them a couple months ago. Did them all in under 10 minutes. Woot! Too bad I still suck with Viper though, haha.