key to crumpling dan is doing the EX tk BEFORE the dash finishes. there’s a window where you can buffer moves and they’ll come out as soon as the dash is over.
I’m stuck at Hard #1. Are the commands as simple as it seems? I just can’t do it.
Dan almost always blocks my cMP or my MP TK afterwards.
I have no idea what i am doing wrong.
practice until you figure out what your doing wrong its an extremely easy trial watch a video of it on youtube. if u come here to post on her hard trial 1 that you cant do it their is noway you can do her other trials, this i guarantee.
if your looking for a tip, your execution and timing are garbage if your looking for a IWIN button their isnt one.
practice!
ive been practicing her hard trials yesterday… you need freakin cocain-monkey-hands to pull her stuff … props to everybody who manage to finish them all
I am having trouble with the same combo, the guy asked for help not to be insulted.:rolleyes:
Some of us are not as skilled at this stuff as others, just saying ‘practice’ is fairly pointless… the very fact he is doing the trials implies he is trying to practice. As for your ‘tip’, I hope it felt good insulting someone who is not as good as you are - you must feel awesome.
im not insulting i had problems with this trial also when i first started out, and guess what i just practiced until i got it, its a simple concept their are no trick just do what it says and it will comeout.
what kinda tip do you want look at the little flashing light on the health bar when u hit your opponent to help you link the combo? that might help, but you still have to practice it.
also theirs no problem with asking questions as i have asked 1 or 2, but its obvious that the problem is you both cant execute so it all comes down to practicing the combo for hours untill you get it right what more help do you want? i can go over their and do all her trials for you, will that be helpfull enough?
Hi, guys. New around here. SF4 is my first “traditional” fighting game, and I have fat fingers. However, when doing the often-mentioned :hk::qcf::qcf::p: I notitced that one of the suggestions here, :qcf::qcf::hk::p: doesn’t work because :r::k: is actually a move, so it registers as Viper Elbow instead of High Kick. So I think it makes sense to post the problem I’m having with the first trial in challenge mode level 4 with Viper (EX Seismic Hammer, High Jump, Burning Kick):
I’m attempting a suggestion from earlier in the thread, :dp::2p:, :qcb::uf::hk:. Unfortunately, the final Burning Kick doesn’t seem to want to “combo” even though it’s connecting (Dan doesn’t block, he’s still in the air). I figure this just means I’m not doing it fast enough, however I figured I’d check with some experienced guys first to make sure I’m not beating my head against the wall.
Thanks in advance for your help guys.
:grrr: FUCK! I cannot get pass hard #3. These are the last trials i got left besides Gen hard 5.
Capcom:chainsaw:
the way i think i did was ex seismo :hcb::uf::hk: i just tried to do this trial again but im just to use to doing it the easy way to learn the way the game wants me to do it again lol. it basicly wants a instant burn kick i believe it wants the hj and burnkick all at once.
- I understand you were not meaning to be insulting, but you have to understand that its not easy for all of us. Ive been a ken scrub who only played against the ai for like 15 years. I was sick to death of ken so thought I would take up viper due to her focus on execution ( i got a stick recently so thought this would be a good idea) and need to play tactically instead of just mashing srk. I have been smashed in nearly every game I have played v just about anyone online. I am trying hard to get better and am trying to do the trials, I look at this thread hoping to see someone else having a similar problem… I do and then the guy is flamed for having trouble. All i am asking is to have a little patience with those of us who are trying to learn viper… I could be worse we could be spamming hadokens and shoryukens like the rest of the community.
Trial 3 isn’t that bad. I can do it every 5 or 6 tries now. Keep at it.
The real problem you start to realize with Viper is that no matter how good you get with executing with her the issue is SFIV is a “basics friendly” game. Meaning the characters that have good normals and a more basic gameplan are overall better off than Viper who has a lot of strong technical attributes but in the end it doesn’t really matter when Gief and Honda have 9 different normals and specials that beat what you do for free. Then there’s characters like Ryu and Sagat who you don’t really have terrible matches against but once they get 2 meters and an Ultra…their DP becomes a free damage card that you just won’t escape.
Viper has the most ways in the game to land Ultra but none of them are as risk free as Sagat’s or Ryu’s options which kinda defeats the purpose of Viper’s insane options for landing them. For such a technical character she has some matches where she has to work ridiculously hard just on a mindset standpoint just to win against characters that have literally one button presses that can shut Viper out.
Viper is great for people like myself who just want something different and something that in the long run will allow you to win matches consistently against a lot of other players. In the end though you’ll still have tough matches regardless against people using high level characters that don’t have to work anywhere near as hard execution wise to win. She’s not anywhere close to being the 3S Yun or Guilty Gear Eddie of SFIV and its when you realize that after all that sitting around in training mode pulling your hair out over her combos that it’s just the beginning of you becoming completely bald forever. :lol:
Viper can become a sick character at high level play but at this point she isn’t looking overall to be much better as a character than Chun Li. Who I would almost argue at this point to be better than Viper just on the fact that she’s a safer character to use in the game itself.
i know exactly what you mean, i was looking at a secondary character to viper and i decided on ryu it takes no effort to do the same damage, its like the character itself makes it obvious on how to space and poke and such idk if you get what i mean, but viper is byfar the funnest and most technical character to play i mained her the same reason that you did, to improve my over all game performance, and honestly it works she forces you to learn patterns and counters or get destroyed.
btw when can we get some matches in ive heard alot about your viper and im on everyday, not trying to be cocky but i have yet to play another viper that was better then me after 1-2 matches.
I’ll probably be online today. Just send me a text or voice message over Xbox Live since my friends list is full. I’ll add you later.
I’ve literally been stuck on Viper’s 3rd Hard Trial since the second month SFIV hit consoles. I’ve read this thread and I"ve tried every method posted in this thread, I still cannot do this trial. Using the 360 analog stick, my thumb just pretty much spazes out instead of doing the motions and I want. And even if I do get them correctly, 95% of the time her SUPER will come out right after the c.LP. I’m just about ready to accept I’ll never be able to do this combo, I’ve been trying for over 2 hours alone today. I guess my thumb just isn’t fast enough for the input command, and I’ve done over half of Hard Trials already. I just joined right now because I’m desperate for help on this one simple combo that is driving me over the deep end.
yea i feel your pain it took me about 8hours to get the trial done but when you finally do it your like astonished. then you move on to the next 2 lol, i dont even do hard trial 3 in games cuz i havent taken the time to learn it, i just suck so bad at canceling normals to ultra, and i see other ppl do it like its nothing and im like wtf.but i really havent put the time into learning it so thats prob why.
After 3 hours of trying I give up, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, but nothing but Viper’s Super comes out after the c.LP connection. I really want to finish his trial, but it broke me, I can’t do it.
guys im having a problem with the normal trial 4 ( i think?! maybe its 3 dunno right now).
the one where you have to
FOCUS ATTACK => EX THUNDER KNUCKLES => ULTRA!
now ive done it for some time now and i hit a point where i dont know what to do.
i can easily pull ex thunder => ultra off. works 99% of the time. i also manage to pull out that focus => ex thunder => ultra most of the times. the strange is, the ultra doesnt hit Oo.
i dont see anything wrong in my moves and i watched videos etc.
as i said i get it without that focus, but as soon as i do it with that focus my ultra just misses…why? 
Got stuck yesterday at that one ^
You need to do a level 3 focus attack so that Dan fells down where he stands and not backwards.
After the ex TK, Dan must be at the same place he was at the beginning of the combo, and not be projected backwards.
Hope this helps.
do it faster in the corner when i was learning this combo that was exactly my problem, the ex tk doesnt come out fast enough making him fly back,i thought i was doing it fast enough but no i wasnt lol
What really annoys me about trial number 3 is having to do it multiple times, i did it today for a friend and it came out on 4th try but i got home to do it on my ps3 and nothing. the only thing i take from trial 3 is the ability to do jab xx ultra and piss somone off.