I do this sparingly as well, but more often when I just need that little bit of chip to end the round. Even if they begin to defend against it, that’s the beautiful thing about Viper–so many options. Seismo feint to bait them into crouching and hit them with a SJ j.HK or a crossup TK BK. She’s a scary woman when you think about how manipulative she can be in a match.
at the end of the second round, after the super jump bk when he lands is he just doing step forward and then mk burning kick each time?
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Im also trying to up my BK game. So far the best motion for me has been :hcb::uf:+:k: although this really only results in the quick slightly forward moving BK. I NEED those insta cross-ups to truly ascend. More practice is in order :china:.
Oh and another problem I have with the BKs is my friend ducks, A LOT. Normal BKs go right over without connecting at all.
Ground ones go over insta-tk air ones hit crouchers…
Does ANYONE have information on C. Viper’s hitboxes? Specifically the hitboxes of her TK variations? That would be very helpful. Like, for her heavy TK, is the hitbox her entire arm, like shoto characters’ Shoryuken, or is it only her fist?
this low-to-the-ground BK that will cross up at point blank or near point blank is not an instant HJ BK. it is a instant regular jump bk. you can tell it’s a reg jump, cuz she don’t got the jets shootin out her feet.
i was messing around in training mode today and you can do an instant reg jump bk consistently if you do d, db, b, uf + HK slow enough that she doesn’t do a HJ, but does a reg jump. i think because the reg jump moves up slower, she is closer to the ground by the time the BK comes out. it will cross up crouching opponents at point blank, or if you are point blank and do a c.short, and then do the instant reg jump HK BK it will also be an immediate cross up. if you space with a c.short from point blank, it won’t be a cross up for everyone (it won’t cross up fat chars like rufus).
toward the end of the second round of this video (posted above by Wonderswan) [media=youtube]G-MBsVKNqFU[/media], dashio is doing reg jump instant bk.
I second this, this looks SO simple yet I can not mimic this for the life of me.
Gah I guess the post above this explains it pretty well?
I can do those crazy insta ones randomly in training mode, but nowhere near consistantly. I REALLY want to add it to my game, it’s so nasty.
Can you change the font color. Makes my eyes bleed. I have to highlight the words to read them.
This is how I’ve been getting them consistantly on a pad. It truly works wonders for her game. Occasionally I’ll get the really low version with this method.
Mal.Mouse-The reg jump and SJ IBK(instant burnkick) can have the same low trajectory, but I think the SJ version is probably more strict on timing. I’ve been getting the SJ version every now and again and it crosses up just as consistantly as if she regular jumps.
yeah in one of those kindevu vids, he does the burning kick setups that kunai is talking about, i tried it out, u just delay ure kick input slightly longer and the trajectory becomes very ambiguous
Yeah its pretty friggin awesome how many ways she can do burning kicks. I had some guy in a BK knockdown string yesterday. I think I landed 4 or 5 on him in a row to win the match.
I don’t know if it has been said but you can :df: :df: :ub: :mp: on either side for seismo xx seismo. I apologize if this has already been stated.
like 1000 times. =p
lol between sending out resumes, making my viper better, developing lighting hands and fingers, and doing programming tests. i missed it.
Playing in a tournament in KC today, going to get my ass handed to me because I dont have the lighting reflexes. :lol:
Whoa…KC? I’m in Topeka, is a guy named Axiom heading up the tourney?
Can anyone get this set up consistently?
back grab, dash forward, tigerknee flame kick too cross up?
You tiger knee the flame kick forward.
I practiced it for maybe 30 minutes last night and only got it 10 or so times, the timing seems pretty strict, too fast and you super jump, too slow and you just jump and do a HK.
when it hits, you can super jump toward them, and if they tech you get a cross up j.HK, and if they don’t, you simply do the tigerknee flame kick again for another cross up. It’s like cross up paradise.
We were talking about this in the last few posts of the vid thread.
As DevilJin said you have to do it slow enough so you don’t super jump, since it’s a regular jump into an immediate burning kick. I’ve been trying to get this down in practice mode so I can pull it out during matches, and I find two things help me a lot:
1.) Holding down and then doing the motion. Instead of quickly doing :d: :db: :l: :uf: in one motion I hold down first, and then complete the motion. Pretty much insures that I don’t do a super jump and that I do the motion with the proper speed.
2.) Making sure to hold the stick in the up forward position for split second and then hitting kick. If I don’t do this the kick won’t cross up (or it won’t even come out if I really mess it up)
Ok so I just got the insta crossup consistantly into my game and DAAAAAYYYUUMMMM is that a sick as hell tool. It’s so great cause it’s pretty much safe against reversals in my experience and since your standing so close to them 1.) If they’ve never seen it before they are gonna have no clue it’s gonna cross them up 2.) It sets up so many mindgames, am I gonna cross you up, am I gonna stay in front, or am I gonna throw you, and there is no tell to what coming until it’s too late it’s a complete guss for them.
I played a Gen player last night and he raped me in the first round cause I just player stupid, but then 2nd round I scored a quick grab and the knockdown lead to like 5 crossups and a stun that lead to FFF combo and a Perfect. It was so much fun just cross him up into oblivion then hitting him in the face when he was blocking for crossup. I won the match btw as well.
Seriously though I think the insta burning kick is a MUST learn for Vipers now that I got it in my repitoire, it comes in handy in so many situaitons ESPECIALLY if you knock them down in the corner just insta crossup Ultra. The move is such shenanigans I love it!