C.Viper Combos and Glitches

Begin to master thos in blue.
Then you should be abble to grab thos in orange quite fast (one hour in training mode straight).
The red ones, are fairly hard if it’s the first time you play Street fighter…

And I agree that a lot, so if you should use as based :
cr mp => thunder knucle. (and variant)

Then try to do :
Seismo/Ex seismo => Jump cancel => burning kick. (and variants)

ps : is it me or FFF is waaaaaaaay easier in the super version ?

I don’t know about fff, I’ve kept the same timing and haven’t had a problem for a long time with the combo.
sjc fadc has become really reliable for me on the other hand…

It is to me as well. I’m actually able to somewhat do it in matches as punishing anything I can.
Although I will fuck it up every now and then but who doesn’t.

I got a quick question about the FFF combo… Now i can do FFF pretty consistantly at will… the only thing is i start it with a cr hp instead of a standing hp… is there any real advantages to doing the FFF with standing hp instead of cr hp? i find the timing on both is a lil different. Also to do cr mp into sj burning kick cross up how are u guys inputting it… ive been trying it different ways but it seems like cr mp into down, down foward , forward, up forward and then burning kick is the best way to do it… .just wondering if theres a better way to do this… thanks in advance.

You do a half circle starting from down to up-forward plus kick. :qcb::ub::u::uf:+:k:
It’s kind of execution heavy and requires strict timing and rythm. Especially after cr.strong into Tk cancel. If you hold :d: an extra split second too long you’ll get an instant bk so you have to be pretty quick. Just make sure you’re neutral after inputting the tk cancel.

this method doesnt work for me… it keeps getting thunder knuckle as it thinks im trying to negative edge it… i can do this way but i would have to wait for my cr mp to end completely and it will work… my goal is to do it instantly after cr mp

If all you want is a cr. Mp into air bk then you don’t need the shortcut. Just sjc the mp into an air bk. The shortcut is meant to be an instant super jump air bk. It’s not meant to sjc another move as part of a combo. The only way to use the shortcut in the manner you describe is to input cr.mp, go neutral and input the shortcut. But this method would force you to wait for the non sjc’d mp recovery frames before you can execute the sj air bk shortcut.

Well the way i’ve been doing it is after a ex seismo hammer i typically will do a normal sj into burn kick… i try to delay it for the most part just in case i have an ultra and need to connect mid screen. but for my sj burn kick shenanigans i find it easier to do the tiger knee ( shortcut ) method of bk… im not going for a instant bk but i am going for a semi low and quick burn kick… i really cant do those fairly low ones by inputting the super jump bk the normal way. I tried doing cr mp into sj burn kick the normal way and for some reason it isnt really working for me… I buffer the super jump but still no go… i may just need more practice i dont know i was just curious as to how everyone else was doing it… While im replying I was wondering how many vipers are able to do an ultra after a hp thunder knuckle trade… I find that very hard to do as soon as i dash forward it gives me almost no time to do the ultra… is doing that really practical?

It’s very useful. Set the dummy up to throw you and then jump roundhouse at you. Practice the timing for the trade into dash. Viper is one of the only characters that can still do that and not utilizing it is mistake. You have to be very fast to do it though. It’ll come with practice.

Haven’t touched the game in a while but s.strong (fierce feint) cr.strong links, I would only suggest doing this if your really feelin ya self its quite strict but looks sexy as hell.

You don’t need to feint for that. It links naturally. Close standing MP > cr.mp>whatever is there since vanilla.

I’m sure Tr@pzt@r knew that, but was only suggeting it for style points.

Btw, I have been wondering for a while how to do repeated seismo fients rapidly. I just got to the point where I can consistently do fierce tk feints, but now I want to throw seismo fients in.

This way I can put more of that lens flare on the screen! :wink:

df, {d, df+hp~lp+mp,} {repeat}
This is how I do it.

Is this the ‘meterless FADC’ I keep hearing about? How do you do it? Is it just a sjc followed by mk+mp followed by a dash?

Is that how people have bee dashing out of ex ground pound into ultra?

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Yup, that’s it. SJC+MP+MK dash>Ultra. No meter used.

Your av is awesome btw haha.

Just found a really nice Ultra set-up for every character, the only catch is that they have to be standing :frowning:

It might be hard to catch a standing opponent you say? I can say in most of my matches 80% of the time are caught in standing positions so it’s not really difficult.

c.lk > s.lk > c.mp, sj rh bk (has to be done uber uber low)
c.lk > s.lp > c.mp, "
c.lp > s.lk > c.mp, "
c.lp > s.lp > c.mp, "
s.lk > s.lk > c.mp, "
s.lk > s.mp > c.mp, "
s.lp > s.lp > c.mp, "
s.lp > s.mp > c.mp, "
s.mp > c.mp, "

I think it’s when you use c.mp at max-ish range and sj rh bk ridiculously low, I’m not even kidding when I say ridiculously low :(, it sends them in front of Viper, if you’re off by like a pixel it sometimes looks like they are too far but you can still reach them with the ultra.

It’s not guaranteed set-up but it’s relatively safe and has high reward, if you don’t throw it out often it’s an absolute beast of a set-up :tup:

You can also actually link two c.mps, if you didn’t know.

yeah but i could never get the same animation after the second c.mp for some reason :S

Sounds awesome, are there any vids of it? is it like the insta-crossup bk ultra set up when they fly backward then forward over viper?

Yeah thats the animation that usually happens, sometimes they get hit low and sent flying more horizontally and you can still hit them with the ultra but the ultra has to come out instantly.

I don’t have any vids because I don’t have any viable way of recordings, I’ve pulled like 2 off just recently and people were more scared after c.mp for anything because of crazy mix-ups.

It good because like its ridiculously safe :stuck_out_tongue: