how is viper looking in super? I hope shes strong…
Cool avatar and They haven’t shown really much of her at all yet. All I’ve seen new is her Ultra and Killian just says that she will be better.
That’s the problem it’s pretty much a shot in the dark right now. No one really knows. No one that tested her at the Vegas build even knew how to play her. Plus the rumors are saying that fundamentally she will be mostly the same so she’s not getting any new specials or radical changes to her moves. Which means most of her changes will mostly be small hit box fixes that she already needed or straight frame data changes which we would need frame data or someone who really understands the character to make light of.
I hope they’ve fixed the hitbox/range on c.forward, it whiffs right through opponents’ limbs, that shit’s so annoying
thanks for the answers 
I hope they make all of her normals faster ATLEAST and i really hope they dont do something stupid like making her anti air startup longer(i just read the last few pages :() cuz she really doesnt need to be worse.
yea improve her normals ever so slightly
fix her hit box
or give her better options to escape vortices, i mean even a better dp would be better…
If they make her footsies better it would be nice, but I think they won’t because it might make her too strong of a character.
I am still wondering why overhead bk was taken out? I mean all you have to do is not hold :db: all day.
Was there something I was missing?
Oh EX feints shouldn’t deplete meter and feints give you a small amount of meter. Do it for the lulz Capcom.
Yeah people try to make a big deal like that shit would be too broken but burn kicks are very telegraphed. They take 23 frames to activate and the start up frames are clearly visible with fire emitting from Viper before it starts. It’s no harder to see than standing up for when Rufus wants to cross you up with j.MK. Ryu and Sagat just wanna uppercut that shit any ways and you can still focus dash through it.
Though if they are trying to make the game more offensive then I guess they figure the changes they’re already making will help Viper stay in against characters who can down back and jump backwards to keep her out.
BTW I cleared my PMs.
If it turns out to be true there’s going to be little point in playing as her with Ibuki being very similar in playstyle and having better moves.
Seriously, I’m getting tired of hearing about nerfs to Viper with no buffs. What is the reasoning behind killing m.TK or c.HP? It’s not broken or anything!
If there’s anyone who doesn’t need a nerf it’s Viper.
If they nerf her mp tk she wont even be an alt for me. I guess maybe they are trying to balance her with the new tandem stream ultra v.2 they gave her? It looks like a block check and it hits opponents in air too. As hard as vipers ultra 1 is to land I dont want tandem stream v.2 either especially if its the cause of mp tk being nerfed. :mad:
Yeah, I might be done with Viper after Super comes out. It’s really stupid that I’ve put in all the time to learn the character and now she’s likely getting nerfed.
ummm why would they give viper of all characters nerfs? shit is just getting stupid…
Well I wouldn’t be so quick to judge considering that nothing’s been confirmed yet. I mean, I’ve also read her HP TK is one frame slower. It doesn’t make sense that they’d nerf both her TK’s unless she got a HUGE buff elsewhere. I’m pretty sure they also said they’re trying to balance the game by buffing rather than nerfing. But then again, this is Capcom we’re talking about :lol:
Guys just switch to Juri because you know she’s going to be god tier in SSF4. I mean seriously safe pinwheel kicks, extremely good priority normals (s.forward/roundhouse beats wake up SRK), dive kick, 15 second Genei-Jin, and counter movements which no longer absorb damage as previously shown they just straight up activate.
Seriously, I’m just going to wait for the final game and do some testing with Viper in training mode to figure out the nerfs/buffs. It’ll be easy to tell if any of her TK’s have additional frame startup/recovery. Though the fist thing I’m going to check is if c.MK still phases through people.
I still plan on using Viper in Super. I have no intention on dropping her completely (although I’ll be maining Makoto now).
The MP TK nerf just means I’ll be feinting MP TK a lot more often.
I hope you guys know that TheLeaker has mostly been spreading lies. Otherwise, there must be a different source I haven’t looked at…