Bringing Sexy Back - Nemesis Discussion Thread (Pg.18 and beyond)

Nemesis(???) Chris (Gun Fire) Wesker (Samurai Edge) is my on paper team

if Nemesis is like anybody he’s the most like Sentinel, but he’s still unique in his number of wall bounces, knockdowns and overall speed. He just does not have the hyper armor/super armor attacks of Sentinel and is not as “Wide” but is definitely taller than Sentinel.

Nemesis is similar but not too much to hulk. They’re both heavy hitters, and slow. Though Nemesis is definitely much faster than Hulk.

He’s also much more vulnerable than Hulk, despite what his blocking animation would have you believe. In all honesty, I think all of these health nerfs exist solely to make Thor and Arthur more viable characters. That being said, I have no problem with that.

If Nemesis was as small as Viewitiful Joe, NOBODY would be making these comparisons to Sentinel and The Hulk, I swear. You have to look past the height man. Nemesis looks like Nemesis imo, he’s not gonna replace anybody or make them “obsolete”. He’s his own beast.

To be fair though, he does have super armor like those two to go along with the size. I do think it’s a little silly to compare him to other characters.

So, will he have a move for teleporters while he’s on the ground? j.:h: is the only move that can hit behind him, I think. If you want to make comparisons to Hulk, Banner has that advantage over Nemmy in his s.:h:.

And I vote Nemmy for best block animation in the game. I thought Victor from Darkstalkers had the “Tense up and take it like a man/manmade creation” thing down, but Nem edges him out.

nemesis got a cool theme.

Nemesis blocking like a true boss. Is it known if he has a command normal with the exchange button like other characters?

Is it really a command grab? Or a hit like Omega Red’s?
If that’s a command grab, what a nice range it has.

Nemesis actually reminds me a lot of Sentinel. Maybe Sentinel+Omega Red? He is badass either ways.

(A bit late, but please don’t just kvetch about the title if you’re going to post, people. It was either this or “‘Your mother’s a whore, Trebeck-type’ The Nemeshish thread”. Pick your poison [by shutting the hell up].)

With regards to his level 1 supers/hypers, I’d be kinda of surprised/disappointed if the wall-destroying super only had hyper armor on the first couple of hits. I could it see not having hyper armor on the last hit, but considering how he’s not ever invulnerable through any of it (meaning he can possibly be thrown out of it), it would probably be a cruel joke for it to be otherwise lacking in armor before that. Then again, Capcom might have felt that would be too good even though Viper can do the same thing for free, so…

With regards to the rocket super, I’m a bit worried that it seems to cause hard knockdown twice by itself. It seems like they might be able to roll out of it if you’ve caused hard knockdown before that more than once, at least if Chris’s All or Nothing super is in any indication. We’ll see, though, especially since Syfex pointed reasons why it will probably be good otherwise, even if his command grabs are probably blockable (sans the Level 3).

It remains to be seen whether he has actually unblockable command throws or if they’re just like auto-combo extenders, especially since people in trailers tend not to block. Still, you do raise good point, though.

Ah, I see. I suppose I can see what you’re getting at there, even now that I think about it, I can’t remember if I ever played RE3.

You brought a bazooka and trenchcoat to your Winter Formal?

Dear Noble Cactus, you become more and more interesting.

If his tentacle attack is a command grab, then it’ll lead to resets that kill people quickly. If it’s a hit, it’ll lead to combos that kill people quickly, so I don’t mind either way.

Also, a friend of mine pointed out that if you close your eyes during his lv 3 super, it just sounds like he’s taking a shit.

No one wanted to dance with me. Took me a while to figure out why. Contrary to what the Internet might tell you, girls actually do not like tentacles. The fact that I only grunted and growled menacingly didn’t help either, I think.

I too think Nemmy’s (I hope that doesn’t end up being too annoying) going to be an XF monster. Air XF with RL, XF with an armored Lv.1, XF with his Lv.3… which took off maybe more than 50% of Magneto’s hp, by the way.

Scary. As any monstrosity should be.

(I find all the [erroneous] Sentinel comparisons especially funny considering Nemesis looks both taller than Sentinel and yet looks like he crouches lower than him. It’s amazing.)

Yeah, Nemesis looks like he’ll benefit the most from X-Factor out of any of the new characters so far outside of maybe Ouroboros-actived Strider Hiryu. I honestly won’t be surprised if his Level 3 X-Factor grab did 800,000+ damage.

Pfft…girls only say they don’t like tentacles in public so as to not look like sluts, as with much of everything else they lie about.

As for grunting and growling menacingly, I’m sure I’ve done the same if Wesker!, Chrissssssss! and seven versions of Wolverine were getting all of the attention and hogging all of the dance floor.

Well, I would had I ever actually cared about dancing or high school functions at all.

Chris’ Magnum is the wrong move for the comparison. I think the rocket might be similar to Chris’ grenades. The grenades have pretty much no proirity, but the explosion caused by the L and H grenades has 1 medium priority point (M grenade has only 5 low priority points). And after going through the trailer frame by frame (using 60 FPS trailer of course) it seems to be the same or similar case for Nemesis’ rocket launcher, except the blast radius is way bigger.
Here’s the picture I made:
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7650/snapshot2011n1.jpg

You can clearly see that the missile is nowhere near Dormammu in the first frame, but he still get’s hit in the second one. I have no clear idea what is up with the hit sparks on the third one, plus there is some kind of weird second explosion near Dormammu’s hands.

You’re right. I don’t know why people immediately thought that he has command grabs, like everyone forgot that nobody really blocks in these videos.

Yes it’s looking like Nemesis will be the new tallest character in the game, judging that he beats Sentinel by an inch or so. Akuma looked like a dwarf to Nemesis. and I can’t wait till R. Raccoon and Viewtiful Joe stand next to him it’ll look like they’re the size of his foot.

you are now my new best friend.

In case someone survives Nemesis’ nom nom nom lvl 3, would it be possible to OTG off with Rocket and continue into Rocket Hyper? if Dormmamu can continue after Dark Dimension with Purification Tower and into Chaotic Flame why not Nemesis?

Oh and I did not make this myself but

about Nemesis’ intro…

I guess you could say Nemesis’
sunglasses
Fell from the STARS!!!

YEAHH!!!:rock:

depends if it causes hard or soft knockdown. So far we haven’t seen anyone survive it.

speaking of otgs. I don’t think nemesis has any otg normals he can follow up off. So far the only non-hyper move in his arsenal that seems to OTG would be his rocket launch.

Well, Mags bounced after it hit, so maybe we are able to follow up with something.
I hope he isn’t as limited in combo options than I think he is. I have a feeling he will have some Short, Yet Sweet combos, and I hate short combos unless it builds full meter* I wonder if we’ll be able to DHC out of his Rockets Hyper, it seems to do crazy damage, and we can easily followup with something since Thor was Bouncing after his Curb Stomp.
*See Sentinel and Hulk
EDIT: Props for the guy that played Nemmy in his reveal trailer for using a kara grab for his LVL 3.

He looks so brutal, I’m really getting that Q feel. He really stands out in this game’s roster. I’m even more hype than when Wesker was announced last year.

Also, when they tap back a few times it makes him pirouette lol

His dentist is way better than his plastic surgeon.