Bringing Sexy Back - Nemesis Discussion Thread (Pg.18 and beyond)

Hmm… maybe projectiles that cover beneath the range of his standing RL (which is a lot of stuff, admittedly)?

nemesis is looking low tier as fck. did you see him trying to get in against hawkeye? and that was with no projectile assist behind hawkeye. His grabs are not going to save him, and he doesn’t look a quarter as high damage output as he should

Of course he’s not getting in, he’s a big slow guy that’s how they typically are, + Hawkeye is Hawkeye, he looks pretty efficient at zoning. Plus Nemesis should not have used the rocket super twice since it causes a Soft knockdown. I seem him being mid tier maybe.

For sure, he has some issues.
Yeah Nemesis had a rough time against Hawkeye, but who without teleports won’t?
Nemesis completely neglected armored attacks(I guess because of triple arrow spam) and didn’t call assists to make his approach safe like the rest of rushdown characters without teleports(that firebrand assist is ass : P).
We’ll see how things things turn out after it drops, the player was ass anyways but that matchup looks like it’s gonna suck regardless. : P
I see Strider Vajira assist helping immensely with that matchup since it tracks though.

Another cute trick you could try with Nemesis:

Tentacle 6C whiff cancelled into command grab? Players are going to duck that at close range. Could be interesting.

Hmm idk, Command grab looks too short ranged to cover up a whiffed 6C, unless we’re talking point blank range. Whats the recovery on 6C anyways?

command grab has a bit more range than just point blank. It has about 2 charcter lengths or something. Enough for Nemesis to do a trick like this without being vulnerable to most character’s 2A’s.

We have Hulk,Nemesis,and We need Juggernaut to fill the empty slot for a team.

I hope Ghostrider/Nemesis is a good team because holy shit, they both look awesome! I still can’t believe this guy made it in!

Well I think the thing bout nem is he seems pretty straight forward(on paper at least) and there just isn’t much theory fighter to be had with him. I hope like the original sentinel, he grows into something a little more interesting than he appears at the moment.

I know it was bigger than point blank but he doesn’t shoot it straight if I remember he kind of whips it upwards or am I thinking of the wrong variant? Because the 45 degree one is straight s well as his 90 degree up variant. But still the range is inferior to his 6C.Obviously it is greater than your normal cmd grab, and unblockable which I will enjoy very much :slight_smile:

Jumping H though has some crazy hitbox, can’t wait to use that to start combos.

He also has a command grab which hits standing and crouching opponents. It just LOOKs like it’s an air grab because he kind of whips his tentacle upwards. It’s actually a ground-target grab.

Basically, you’ll want to train the opponent to block low, because ducking makes many opponents go right under his rocket launcher shots AND his 6C tentacles. So at mid-range, throw out 6C tentacle and if they duck it, empty cancel into ground command grab. Since they won’t have blocked, they’ll be crouching and vulnerable to the unblockable grab

with the sight problem that ryu can stand under the rocket launcher.

I’m thinking a buff maybe to expand the hitbox of his rocket? But then again since when does Capcom care about slow characters? :stuck_out_tongue:

I dunno, I’ve barely paid any attention to nem at all, but I’m in the habit of talking on here again, so I’m just trying to discuss something.

Is the rocket slow enough that he could fire it and then trap them underneath it with the throw?

I think you mean fast enough, dunno how the recovery is on the rocket. They’re command normals and dunno if you can cancel them.

by slow enough I meant the speed the projectile travels.

I was thinking on another level, dunno. That’s something i’d have to test out on day 1. The rocket itself travels quite fast obviously slower than Wesker, Chris, or Deadpools guns. But is faster than any other fireball in the game. Looking faster than V.Joe’s voomerang. I guess it makes it one of the fastest projectiles in the game thats not bullet-related. It also has some hits of armor on it.

the actual shell’s hitbox is TINY by the way, making it a pretty awful projectile given it’s slow startup and the fact that it’ll just plain miss most characters.

i didn’t wanna seem like a negative nathan, but i gotta admit, i’ve lost interest in nemesis over the last few weeks. he’s gonna suck for the most part. his effectiveness lacks flexibility (even for a big char) and you’ll have to dhc him in and/or xfactor in order to put him to good use (guaranteed kills and incoming character kills). he’s just gonna get outclassed/rushdowned/cant-do-much in any other situation. he’s certainly gonna need all that health and his super armor. and this is coming from someone who thinks thor isn’t as bad as ppl say. funny thing is though, all he’d need are a few minor little changes (1 or 2), and he’d be money in the bank.