Input EX FS during (slightly before… just like any other OS) f.mk to OS it. I don’t get the delayed backthrow getting backdashes though.
edit: this is wrong dont listen to me
input the motion and delay throw, block or if they jump press PP to get ex fs? im confused on how this exactly works. sorry if i sounded like a noob 
@resres you dont input ex fs during f+mk how else would you get the throw? what you do is f+mk dash, throw late as possible so like strider said if he mashed dp you would block so on and so on. ryu’s back dash doesnt go far and you are throwing him AFTER the invinciblity frames of the back dash.
thats why i think the ex fs is more on reaction than a true OS… but then strider havent replied yet so maybe there are ways iono i dont use OS…
oh wait, i think i get it now. … well kinda at least.
yeah, now that i think about it, i’m wrong. my bad.
im guessing you input something like :dp: mp~lp-lk and quickly hold back after you input it. this is delayed so after the step kick, wait a few frames to see if he mashes dp, then do this OS. amiritestrider? =x
I’ve been using this a lot against any character with a fast, invincible reversal… Blanka, Guy, Guile, all the rest. Still trying to perfect the timing but it is so useful… it also makes tornado throw even deadlier.
The only thing that it loses to is people who mash jabs or shorts on wakeup. Shorts will go under your guard, and mashed jab will hit you out of your throw startup. If you throw fast enough to beat a mashed normal, it loses to DP again…
edit: I should add I leave out the EX FS on most chars
Looks like we’ve got our first entry into the Heartless section.
Dirty, dirty, cheap, unfair shit. I like it.
Pretty cool trick…I can’t get this OS to Fallingsky Ryu out of a backjump though unless he’s cornered.
BTW speaking of OSes… i found a pretty cool OS with breathless that hopefully isn’t old news…
forward+MK, dash, cr. LK, then buffer the breathless motion.
If they block the cr. LK, you get cr. LK -> st. LK. If they backdash or something, you get breathless.
it’s old news to me… but it’s sooo useful. beats out teleports (delay) too. even autocorrects but thats a bit trickier.
So to everyone that was asking on how to actually get EX FS to come out, just input it a little bit after you press throw, that way if it whiffs the FS comes out, and trust me it should only whiff if they jump because this OS covers all his other options.
BTW, if you time it right it should also auto-correct, so if they jump forward your FS will catch him right out of that.
Valle said this shit was the cheapest thing he’s ever seen, and he’s right.
This plus other things makes the matchup a very solid 6-4 Abel imo.
Forgot to mention, the timing to throw Ryu out of his backdash has to be exact. He loses invincibility and isn’t airborne on the 8th or 9th frame (correct me if I’m wrong), so u can actually throw him before he backdashes, it just has to be timed after he loses invincibility and before he actually hops backwards.
That’s probably the hardest part in this OS, as the throw has to be timed perfectly in order to really kill all his options. Practice makes perfect
Yeah… we discussed this a long time ago in relation to a Shiro/Daigo match. I think it’s the 8th frame. Not like it matters. 8th or 9th… who can tell the difference? Just find the frame, and practice up. I hadn’t bothered learning this so far, but I’ll practice it myself.
Perfect OS’s relying on exact frame data?!?!?!
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I have found my brethren at last.
Anyone understand how to do this option select?
^I don’t think what Nick T described is an OS. it’s more like buffering qcf to do something on reaction… well, i don’t really know how it’s supposed to work, but its definitely not an OS.
about the back throw/EX FS OS… after a blocked step kick, you wait a few frames, input throw, then input :dp: lp+mp during your throw? If it whiffs, EX FS automatically comes out? I was trying this in training mode vs CPU, then with someone else. when it whiffed nothing came out, or if EX FS did, it would whiff. Is the timing strict when you input EX FS? i’ll practice it a bit more =[ man, but if this OS is as good as you say, combining this with OS U2… Abel = gdlk.
Should we all start switching to breathless now? It’s an amazing ultra, but every new Abel I see just uses it as a crutch. Souless still gets it done for me, but I know its a tad bit inferior.
General consensus seems to be that Breathless is not Abel’s best ultra at all. I agree with that assessment.
you need to fight some ‘old’ abels. lol
a question to others, how to practice OS in training mode? ive tried a few ways and i dont think im doing it right… i feel like its best to test OS and stuff with a human player (in training room of course)…
Best way is to put the dummy (Abel) on record. Simple example: record Abel doing a forward throw. Do a meaty c.jab, c.jab + c.rh on wakeup. Put on playback. To test if your OS works, 1P will take the knockdown and mash backdash on wakeup. To see if you did it correctly, block the first jab and the second hit should be another jab. If it still throws a roundhouse, you did the OS wrong.
Apply to other similar situations… after blocked step kick, other untechable knockdowns, etc.
ok thats how ive been testing it but putting the dummy on record wont really help you to practice it, maybe useful to figure out whether the os works or not.