Breathless... SUPER Abel Match Theory Thread

How is it that you “just dont see why there hasnt been at least something up already”. I clearly explained why there hasn’t been anything put up. You can feel free to disagree, but I don’t see how you “just dont see why”. It’s been explained.

And plenty of notable players have said stuff. Plenty of notable players have posted. I’ve had phone conversations with players… I’m not putting shit up until I know it’s good shit. Sorry.

Again… you say you’ve learned alot of stuff already. I say you think you’ve learned a lot of stuff. Just like I think I’ve learned a lot of stuff. Before I put it out there though, I’m gonna do a little more digging. I’m gonna wait for ONE tournament to happen before I take definitive stances on anything. Luckily for me, ECT is this weekend, and between Yipes, Ryder, KDZ, Rico, Cowman, Agua and myself, there is gonna be plenty of high level Abel play, hopefully a few discussions, and maybe we’ll see what’s what.

As it stands, I don’t see how anyone can really think they KNOW the new match-ups already, without there being a single high-level tournament yet. How do you know that whatever Makoto you play is a high level Makoto? And even if he is, how do you know that he has all the tricks he needs? How do you know that he has any idea how to fight Abel? You don’t. So you shouldn’t be so quick to judge a match based on limited experience. The game hasn’t even been out a month yet. Do you really think you’re going up against these new characters at full potential already? You’re not.

I’m gonna make some calls after ECT, and honestly, I think that’s still too early to really say shit, so I’ll make a disclaimer, but at that point, I should at least feel good enough to get preliminary info out there, and I hope everyone feels free to chime in.

I created this thread. I’m gonna handle the first page… but outside of that, nothing is stopping you from posting anything you think is good, and I hope everyone wants to post shit up, so we can all discuss it and grow.

just because there hasnt been anything posted, (he even states why in his first post iirc) doesnt mean you cant post something. if you tihnk u have some useful info then POST it. why waste time arguing about this and not post the info you say you have?..

this is why abel has the best character forum on srk.

HAV=:karate:

I’ll be at NCR, I’ll post after that!

Really sorry if this was posted…

Pretty sure EX FS beats Rufus divekick.

What matches are looking like the ones for UII? Not really thinking any fireball characters at least…

Depends on the range/timing. Wont beat meaty divekicks thats for sure.

edit: no good rufus will do such divekicks that you can punish with ex fs imo (of course theres also the fs you do in anticipation of a followup dive kick immediately after blocking one - should work iirc)

i think it will beat divekicks only when you time it in a way abel’s arm is stretched out as soon as the divekick starts. Rufus divekick may do less damage, but its still an incredible good tool.

Since Im playing Juri along with AbelJacks.

Ill shed some info on the juri matchup a bit… Later though. still testing stuff to make SURE its legit.

Man, I get called a turtle a lot lately. Guess people get mad when they can’t just spam their Jaguar bullshit all over me.

Also, thank god HAV is the one running this thread. I like this shit clean and reliable, not like the other character discussion threads.

teach me juri,pls lol

how do you use abel medium punch i heard it was useful now?

Divekick is punishable with breathless on block, not sure how to punish ex spinkick yet though. Is it safe?

And thats all I’ve got I’m afraid…

Good shit to all the Abel players at ECT2 representing.

EX spin kick is easily punishable by step kick xx whatever, breathless, and possibly soulless. It punishes in training mode, but I haven’t had a live body to test this out on to make sure. Come to think of it, pretty much all the new characters’ EX reversals are punishable by breathless, at the very least.

yeah, though ive only seen KDZ in casuals and yipes in losers top 8… i wonder how the rest did.

Ryder got top 16 I think… looking forward to seeing how Yipes eliminated Marn - there’s still hope for Abel vs. Rufus lol

yipes destroyed both marn and KDZs Rufus, but his most hype match was against Eduardo PRbalrog. He lost against arturos Seth unfortunately.

I was especially amazed by how well yipes was holding it together against sabins seth. This tournament makes me respect tournament players even more yo

man marn tried to tell me that yipes was the best abel at MWC.

i think he was right, holy fuck. that is the perfect character for him.

OK. Back from ECT. Got some more insight here and there. I’m gonna start working on this thread in the next couple of days.