Breathless = Cheap?

No it is not so many ways to get out of it if youre a smart player imo even though i get hit by it all the time lol

but you cant even block it shit is so cheap i swear i was on down back and it still hit me wtf

yesssssssssssssss

Man, SFIV gets one interesting ultra that you can use, and then everyone goes apeshit. People are too use to just having to hold down-back and feeling completely safe against all your options.

Breathless beats people who don’t think for free. Which is the majority of online players.

i?..

Breathless isn’t cheap. It’s just completely unfair!

So glad he’s on my side. LMAO

looking at the ultras , u1 does the most damage so should that be the choice for punishing and it also combos?

i like the ‘feel’ of ultra2 and since i’m an abel beginner i cant combo u1 easily in a match but i dont know ways of landing ultra2 successfully other than glaring punish windows in which ultra1 would surly be a better choice.

Just give space between you and abel then jump when you see him move after he activates his ultra or use a move that makes you airborne so he cant grab you? i think. If you get hit by it when abel throws it out randomly then its your fault? As far as a punishiment tool whats wrong with it? His ultra reminds me of Cammy’s counter ultra it makes you play different when abel has his full ultra.

I think this Ultra helps certain peoples play styles more. Those of us who have a harder time getting that crouching hard punch to land against solid turtle characters. I combo and FADC into ultras with Adon, but when I play Abel I just need the Ultra 2 to let me be in control of fight momentum once I have it. People tend to back off if smart letting you work your way in with good use of spacing, and if they screw up then they eat an ultra 2. :smiley:

i suck with abel ultra 2 is the equalizer

i must admit i feel kinda dirty when i manage to land ultra 2 (which is pretty much every time) and win a match with it, esp if i was losing.

Lone you make good points. But the last place you’re going to get an unbiased opinion of this move is in the Abel forum.

People have refuted those points fairly well I would say, but that’s not to say it’s not a good ultra. They had to match the effectiveness of his U1, right? Funnily enough, most Abel players in here back up their words by using U1 in 90% of the match ups still.

Read a few pages of this thread, felt Ill put in my 2 cents about this ultra. I dont main Abel but I played a TON of great Abels online, and sorry to tell you “Abel fanatics” but yes U2 is definitely is cheesy , but guess what there will always be something that some character can and will exploit to the fullest to win. Its in the game, and thus part of the game.

People say escaping u2 is easy, um yea theoretically is it EASY but actually playing a tough abel with their mixups can easily catch you at SOME PT jumping especially when you know they have U2 ready and your trying 95% to play all footsies with them. This is the best option for me usually, I just dont jump. I main Ryu and Akuma. I can remember countless times Im slaughtering an Abel player only to catch me with online lag and u2 taking all my health and finishing me off with a poke or two.

After playing so many Abels it became a challenge of discovering ways to avoid u2 if I jump when Im not supposed to, or let my mind slip getting to aggressive. So many times I was left with my mouth completely open in “WTF” mode on how he either managed to grab me through this move or that more, or ex this or that.

To say this ultra is not CHEESY, especially for some characters who have small jumps(zan) is utterly STUBBORN.

ah online lag, whatever lol

So Ryu players complain about easy to land ultras now eh?

Ryus ultra is easy to land but it isnt an equalizer. Abel already has insane mixup game and throw priority coupled with that Ultra. AAAA watever.

Ryu and Akuma can both ROFLcopter out of the way. Maybe if you’re a character with bad jump in this game can not being able to jump out of range be an excuse (even though it isn’t), but a character with a tatsumaki? LOL, fail.

let me get my 2 cents in this.

I main abel. pretty much all you have to do is jump over abel to avoid the U2. but a good abel player will NOT throw out the U2 just at any time, he will do some rolls, jump, backdash, etc. into U2. its not so clear cut when the U2 is coming out. On top of that, you can delay the U2. that delay is PURE BLISS!!!

U1 is just hard to land, sure you can combo into many different things, but since soo many people know the abel matchup, people rarely get caught with the c.hp into U1, imo. which is why i dont use the U1 much now.

ryu players SHOULD NOT be complaing out ANY ultras for ANY characters. since ryus U1 is one of THE best ultras in the game since vanilla. and can be linked into 1001 different moves.