Breaking Bad

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Pft. I’d do it with little remorse because I decide what I want to do, go with it, and that’s that. It’s not the same feeling as doing something on accident, or without good reason. That’s not the same thing as ā€œnot having a conscience.ā€ A conscience is just a moral threshold. Once I decide to cross then I have little regret because it was my decision to do so. Not dwelling on something != not having a conscience. Easily betraying a low moral code is. These are not the same thing.

Hm… I’ll allow that.

Here’s the thing: as human beings, we’ve evolved to consider things on a certain scale. And some numbers are so mind-bogglingly big that we simply don’t have the mental machinery necessary to process them. So big that you might as well not bother to consider it, because it’ll make your brain recoil from the effort.

And that is the realm that the amount of money would be into well before I would ever consider killing a child who, for all I know, has jack shit to do with anything.

Sorry, dude. You’re not quite in as good a company as you think you are when it comes to potential child murders.

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GM: Three people in this thread alone have openly admitted to being okay with icing a child. Are you selectively reading posts or is it that you simply can’t handle the truth?

The truth that some people would kill a kid to avoid jail? Is that truth supposed to be something mind bending or something? Some would; doesn’t mean we all would. What was the point again?

Wait a minute, how the fuck did we get here in the first place?

I wouldn’t be ā€œokay,ā€ with it. I’m not a nutjob that’s just going to go out and shoot at kid but if you give me the choice between my freedom or shooting a kid I’ll take my freedom. Doesn’t mean it’s not a fucking horrible choice to make, but that’s the choice I’d make. I know it’s not the moral thing to do, but I’m not about to give up half my remaining life because I wouldn’t pull the trigger.

Like it would be fucking terrible. If you’re at the point where you’re even facing 25 years in jail your life has taken a turn though. Seems kind of trite to me to draw the line there if there is a way out.

Which part of my post makes you think that either one of these things is the case?

I tell you this right now–and, if the shoe fits, feel absolutely free to take this personally–if you are on any level okay with shooting a child, do not for one second assume that everybody else feels the same way.

I’d rather get raped in the ass and beaten up in prison than killing a kid to avoid the former. My mistakes shouldn’t have to directly cost the life of another. I’ll go down with the ship.

Okay okay okay… plat twist… what if the kid was… Hitler?

wat den?

The thoroughly excellent Matt Zoller Seitz discusses how Walt, in the moment of his surveilled call to Skyler, neither Walt nor Heisenberg but radically both. I find this is relevant to our current conversation.

It’s easy to say you wouldn’t.

When cold hard cash is shown, or you are put in hot situation where the only way out is the kid.

You’d really consider doing it. Stop lying to yourself. Just because you do it doesn’t mean you where totally for it and totally OK with it.

Again, nothing but a glass house. Put in a situation, you wouldn’t be this absolute. Nobody would.

Nice. There were a couple other episodes that were longer than normal before.

…I don’t know why the fuck you all are yapping about stuff these last few pages now rather than until the series is over but …it’s better than spoilers I guess

I am that absolute. But at the same time for a man to be in that situation where his life is hanging in the balance by the life of a child he’s probably already made some immoral decisions. He’s probably already been tainted by what he has done and thus one more dark deed becomes that much more acceptable. In other words I’m not currently or anytime in the foreseeable future doing anything to put me in a situation where it comes down to a prison sentence or the life of an innocent child.

I’m not sure if I’d say both in the strictest sense. I would say rather that the Heisenberg alter ego was finally cracked and it’s been the real Walt ever since Hank’s life was on the line. Walt knows that Heisenberg is dead but the rest of the world doesn’t know that yet. So for now he can keep using Heisenberg (the phone call, leaving town, eventually coming back with a big ass gun and collecting his ricin) to do whatever needs doing (thanks Low Winter Sun!).

New predictions. SPOILERS AHEAD

Walt’s final stand is NOT going to be saving/getting revenge for Jesse against the Aryans. The Jesse/Walt son/father relationship is forever dead when Walt said he let Jane die. They both see each other as the source of all their misery/problems. Final confrontation will definitely be Walt v. Jessie.

But before all that, once Lydia finds out about Jesse, she will off Todd and the Aryans. Jesse starts cooking her because he is in IDAF mode.

None of these predictions will be right.

Id feel bad about killing a kid but if came down me spending years in prison VS killing the kid

yeah I dont wanna get raped…:coffee:

I take the point to mean that Walter White, mild-mannered father and schoolteacher and Heisenberg, ruthless crime lord, and all the other identities he’s had to assume throughout his adult life have been ground into dust. All that’s left is whatever little protean bit of humanity that had been crushed down and buried within over the years. There are remaining vestiges of those other identities that keep firing in fits and starts, but they’re burning themselves out. Whatever he is now, it isn’t Walt, Heisenberg, or anything we’re used to seeing him as.

Meh, given how thirsty and generally greasy the average SRKer is, you’re in much danger hanging around them as you are in prison. :coffee:

yeah with my good looks I better watch out :coffee:

I’m sure at least someone here would give him a list of notes like don’t invade Russia until you’ve crushed Britain and build more u - boats.

I’m ā€œokayā€ with shooting a child like Todd did. I believe you when you say that you would never do so, under any circumstance. I’m just trying to say that a certain minority segment of the population probably are Todd types, this is something you have to come to terms with.

Guys. This thread…