I’m also aware that there is a certain minority segment of the population composed of Arthur Bremer types, John Wayne Gacy types, UBL types, Timothy McVeigh types… to return to a point I made before, to understand and to tolerate these people’s actions are two different things.
I would also bet that while we have people here saying that everybody has a price, I’m willing to bet that some of those people wouldn’t be able to do it if they were actually in the situation with the money in their face and the gun in their hand. Saying you don’t know what you might do when the pressure’s on works both ways.
It’s what happens when they make us wait an entire week to find out what happens next.
As much as I have criticised this show I am looking forward to watching Heisenberg’s redemption tour. We’ve seen short glimpses of Heisenberg ownage before and I’m interested in seeing an extended version of that.
There’s something like eight show-months left until the M60 caper, right? Why that length of time? Does Walt just need to figure out his next move, or take that time to prepare, or does something lure him back?
Another thought is that we haven’t had Walt solve a problem through science in a while. Like poisoning those guys in the RV, making that explosion in tuco’s place, MAGNETS, BITCH!, etc.
What if Walt takes the next few months to hold up in a cabin in NH and prepare all sorts of whacked-out science weapons? And goes to hit the Aryans, not knowing that Jesse is there, but the commotion lets Jesse escape? And Walt and Jesse are forced to escape together, but then have an epic final showdown later?
maybe he tricks the aryans into entering his booby trapped cabin ala home alone? a good ol paint can to the face should teach uncle jack a lesson
you’re right though, I love the few chances Walt gets to just nerd out on chemistry. one of my favorite scenes in BB is when he creates the battery to jump start the RV. it’s Walt at his best and its fun seeing his joy over the process since a joyfull Walt is so rarely seen
whatever it is, I hope it’s not just Walt going guns blazing a la scarface. I think this is what Gilligan has planned but I’m hoping for a lot more. don’t forget to ice Lydia!
A late inclusion to the discussion, but if I was in an ego fueled powertrip like Walter was, looking at this with the same subjective mindset I’d have in the heat of things, I’d DEFINITELY kill a kid.
Hell, if I was on any ego or power trip, I’d probably indirectly kill a kid to avoid jailtime. Having known people before and after they went to jail, it’s not an experience I’d want to go through. But it is a lot easier and far more honorable in a discussion like this to go ''Nah, man. I wouldn’t kill a kid I don’t know to avoid 20 years to life of ass rapings, crippling fear, health deterioration and lack of substantial outside contact. I’d tough that shit out, it’s all good."
It’s incredibly easy to look at the two and pick the right one, but when you’re on the brink of a heart attack, adrenaline pumping and looking down the metaphorical barrel? I can guarantee a lot of you would take a kid out to save your own bacon.
I just wanna point out that this theoretical discussion is a little irrelevant.
While so many of you can sit here and spew your “moral goodness” all over the forums and say shame on those who said they’d kill a kid, matter of fact is, you really don’t know whether or not you would given the circumstances.
Yes, I can say that I’d never kill a child by choice. But if I were robbing a train of millions of dollars worth of something and a kid rolled up on me doing it and I happened to have a gun on hand and the kid looked like he was gonna run? I don’t fucking know what I’d do, it’d be a spur of the moment decision and I’d have to live with the consequences.
I don’t think those of you saying you absolutely would not are seriously considering the spontaneousness of the situation.
I’m still finding it hilarious that this whole “kill a kid” conversation started apropos of NOTHING anybody was talking about at the time. Some dude just offered that up unsolicited.
I think that Walt is going to see his blue meth on the east coast and then that makes him sick to his stomach as he realizes that Jesse is trapped their cooking his meth.
On a different note, as we approach the finale of this weird season who else finds the Aryans as bad guys to be disappointing? I only look at them rather indifferently. Tuco was hilarious but a psycho and always put on a good show. Gus Fring is Gus Fring. Then we end things on these Aryans. Only Todd gets any of the attention because he’s such a weird guy but he only exists because of his Aryan brothers so it goes back to being boring. I just wish they had more meat on their bones as characters.
I won’t bother responding to anything else since we already boned this argument pretty hard from both ends, but am I the only who thinks that 99% of everyone in history who ever put those words in quotation marks was probably a huge asshole?
And 99% of that 99% was probably somebody who had finished reading Atlas Shrugged within the last week.
One thing I’ll proudly claim is that I’m not a fight right libertarian hung up on Ayn Rand.
I mean if you feel entitled to be greedy because you’ve made it well… I can’t deny you that. Don’t try provide moral justification for it claiming you’re the pillar that holds up their world when really you’re just exploiting them and trampling them into the dirt.
It’s well written. If you take it as what it is, fiction, it’s a fine book. It was a big inspiration behind Bioshock and we all love Bioshock. Rand’s political philosophy is a load of self - indulgent fantasy however and plenty of neo - libertarian college politics students from well to do households who’ve never had money issues in their life like to wave it about.
What everyone seems to ignore in that book is that the protagonists had the world pretty much shitting on them for being successful. Everyone knows it’s a fiction book but EVERYONE ignores the antagonists’ plans to completely dismantle the most successful train transportation company, the most successful copper company, and the most successful steel/metal company because others in the same field couldn’t compete due to their own incompetence. That’s pretty goddamn important to understand why the protagonists do what they do by the end of the book.
There’s even that part where she lampoons Marxism, but no one ever admits that if that were to actually happen in the workforce, as we’ve seen happen in real life, it wouldn’t sustain itself for long. I agree those who work hard should get to keep what they earn, since the protagonists in the novel actually do nothing wrong and just roll with the punches. They never, not ONCE, hinder anyone else’s ability to work. It’s the antagonists who hinder the successful. In that world, yes I agree.
You really can’t fit that scenario to the real world because in reality it’s the ones who are successful who are putting up the walls preventing others from succeeding. But that’s enough off-topic discussion.
