Breaking Bad

[pietastic]

I think that Walt is going to see his blue meth on the east coast and then that makes him sick to his stomach as he realizes that Jesse is trapped their cooking his meth.

On a different note, as we approach the finale of this weird season who else finds the Aryans as bad guys to be disappointing? I only look at them rather indifferently. Tuco was hilarious but a psycho and always put on a good show. Gus Fring is Gus Fring. Then we end things on these Aryans. Only Todd gets any of the attention because he’s such a weird guy but he only exists because of his Aryan brothers so it goes back to being boring. I just wish they had more meat on their bones as characters.

Agreed. They haven’t had the chance to flesh them out as characters, so I think they’re just a distraction from the real plot between Walt and Jesse.

[FrostyAU]

What everyone seems to ignore in that book is that the protagonists had the world pretty much shitting on them for being successful. Everyone knows it’s a fiction book but EVERYONE ignores the antagonists’ plans to completely dismantle the most successful train transportation company, the most successful copper company, and the most successful steel/metal company because others in the same field couldn’t compete due to their own incompetence. That’s pretty goddamn important to understand why the protagonists do what they do by the end of the book.

There’s even that part where she lampoons Marxism, but no one ever admits that if that were to actually happen in the workforce, as we’ve seen happen in real life, it wouldn’t sustain itself for long. I agree those who work hard should get to keep what they earn, since the protagonists in the novel actually do nothing wrong and just roll with the punches. They never, not ONCE, hinder anyone else’s ability to work. It’s the antagonists who hinder the successful. In that world, yes I agree.

You really can’t fit that scenario to the real world because in reality it’s the ones who are successful who are putting up the walls preventing others from succeeding. But that’s enough off-topic discussion.

Look, I get the point of it, the problem is the message behind it isn’t just that wealth earned should be celebrated instead of scorned, it’s that people that exist to serve themselves, better themselves more and excel more which benefits society as a whole. The problem is that in a political sense it advocates the abolishment of the “crutch,” of welfare and that people can lift themselves up to great things if they try which just isn’t the case in real life.

Ayn Rand is to capitalism what Marx is to socialism. In an ideal world, with ideal human beings either system would function, with full, or no state control because either way people have equal opportunity to live their lives and the system works. In the real world however, there are too many factors and we don’t exist in an idealistic vacuum for that to happen.

We have a long way to go before our world resembles Star Trek where there is no need for money.

[FrostyAU]

The biggest difference is that Karl Marx is one of the most influential figures of the last 200 years and Ayn Rand is a joke academically because her ethics are very hard to swallow unless you’re one of the fortunate few.

[Raz0r]

I can provide anecdotal evidence, but it’s just that: anecdotal. I think you’ll appreciate this article. If you want, post it in the U.S./World news thread to really ruffle some feathers.

[FrostyAU]

… yeah no.

The 99% wouldn’t be where they were if the 1% paid higher wages to those at the bottom whose work fuels profits that go up the chain into their pockets. They may make a large contribution but they practically ignore the contribution of those under them and if it wasn’t for the people flipping burgers there wouldn’t be huge corporate profits to fill wallets.

If those people down the food chain were afforded higher compensation for their time, if not their labour as it’s deemed so insignificant to so many people as unskilled as it is which really is idiotic but moving past that. If their time afforded them a share of the franchises success equal to their contribution they’d have a higher standard of living, greater access to opportunity like education and qualifications or healthcare to make it easier to work and they’d in turn give back more to society. Instead they’re exploited as an endless, easily replaceable commodity as people need money to live and there is no safety net to catch those without qualifications.

Greed is not a virtue and having money doesn’t suddenly entitle you to just ignore the concerns of the rest of society, in fact it gives you a larger obligation as that money came from somewhere and you wouldn’t have it if not for the contributions of society such as controlling unrest. You wouldn’t be making billions if the country was in a civil war, or if crime was out of control because there was no justice system. Milking others for your benefit, no matter how entitled you may feel, is going to cause more harm than good on the larger scale.

[RECESSIONTIME]

While so many of you can sit here and spew your “moral goodness” all over the forums and say shame on those who said they’d kill a kid, matter of fact is, you really don’t know whether or not you would given the circumstances.

I won’t bother responding to anything else since we already boned this argument pretty hard from both ends, but am I the only who thinks that 99% of everyone in history who ever put those words in quotation marks was probably a huge asshole?

And 99% of that 99% was probably somebody who had finished reading Atlas Shrugged within the last week.

Now you did it. You just had to bring Ayn Rand into this.

[goodm0urning]

That was a one off quip and you rat bastards are damn well aware of that.

I never thought I’d say this, but let’s get back to that kid-killing topic.

[RECESSIONTIME]

I’ll just leave this here for all of you:

[Raz0r]

I like that interview and have no problems with her views. I always believed, since before I knew who the hell she was or what objectivism entailed, when I was a child going to Catholic church, that man should make himself happy without trampling on the happiness on others instead of sacrificing oneself for another. Maybe that’s why when I finally read her book I enjoyed it more than others.

[FurryCurry]

Who is the most attractive woman on breaking bad?

Wendy gets my vote.

[Raz0r]

Holly.

[FrostyAU]

There are not really a lot of “hotties,” in Breaking Bad. They’re mostly older women. Not that there is a problem with that, the show is refreshingly not just about good looking girls, it actually has substance.

I’d be fine with Lydia, there’s something about being so strung up that makes me want to calm her down.

[Dai]

Who is the most attractive woman on breaking bad?

Wendy gets my vote.

Lydia by a country wide.

Holly.

[pietastic]

Jane.

Also, I just want to say I’d shoot any child at any time for a burrito.

(FILLED WITH DIAMONDS!)

[Raz0r]

[goodm0urning]

For real, though, Jane and Andrea are both quite fine, but something about Lydia’s constant deer-in-headlights look just works.

[Pimp_Willy]

Jane, easily

Maybe Marie

[axeman61]

Lydia. For me, it’s no contest. Jane was pretty hot, but Lydia… mmm. I want to eat her soul.

[Autocrat1]

Cynthia, the Pollos Hermanos fatty who was the only female to talk to Gus on the show not related to Walt’s family.

Honorable mention: Skank-Ass Skank

Last place: Principal Onion Butt with fake concerned voice

#SRKWeDaWorst

[a15kko]

SHE AIN’T NO SKANK